On 3/25/24 17:31, Franta Hanzlík wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:48:23 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote:
> On 3/25/24 11:52, Franta Hanzlík via users wrote:
>> After upgrading my gateway x86_64 Linux box to F39, my VDSL connection
>> to internet does not work, although I have all the necessary packages
>> (network-scripts, ppp, rp-pppoe) installed. And it all worked correctly
>> on the previous F37 system.
>> After some investigation the cause was clear - network-scripts ifup-ppp
>> runs adsl-start - and this script not exist in rp-pppoe-4.0-2.fc39.x86_64
>> package, but was in older rp-pppoe-3.15-4.fc37.x86_64.rpm (as symlink to
>> pppoe-start - which now also is not in the rp-pppoe-4.0 package.
>>
>> It seem as in F39 also is not pppoe.service systemd unit - which would
>> also be a possible solution for an xDSL connection.
>>
>> About NetworkManager - I read that it can not do system-wide VPN - which
>> I also need (net-to-net OpenVPN connection).
>
> What do you mean by "system-wide"? I use it for site to site VPN.
System-wide should be connections, which are not user-dependent (i.e.
connections, which starts immediately after system boot up. - as typical
for servers).
Unlike user connections, which are activated only after the user logs in.
And what I saw somewhere was that VPN connections can only be of
the second kind - user initiated.
But maybe it was some old information and now system-wide VPN connection
is now also possible?
I confess that I hardly know the NetworkManager, or only its graphical
interface...
Even wifi connections are "system-wide" connections.
And whatever information you had about VPNs is very old. I've used NM
for that for a long time.
>> Is there any reasonable xDSL connection solution in this F39
distro?
>>
>> (For now I downgrade rp-pppoe-4.0-2.fc39 to rp-pppoe-3.15-4.fc38, but
>> it is probably not very promising (the network-scripts package seems be
>> deprecated))
>
> Right, don't use network-scripts. Use "nm-connection-editor" for
> creating the PPPoE connection. I think upgrading to F39 would have
> converted all your ifcfg files to NetworkManager connection files anyway.
I have always preferred network-scripts over NetworkManager on the server,
for its reliability and stability. And why should a useless program run on
the server when I only need to activate the interface at startup and then
nothing else?
(a few (10?) years back I had an unpleasant experience with the NetworkManager
when, after restarting a remote multihome server, it set the routing so
badly that the machine became unreachable. Is it time to trust him again?).
I've been using it for a long time on a remote many-homed server with no
issues and it doesn't use enough memory to bother me.