On Monday, 22. October 2012. 11.25.04 Ian Malone wrote:
> On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim <ignored_mailbox(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> Tim:
>>>> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
>>
>> Ed Greshko:
>>> UFT-7 isn't widely used.... But if you want to use it go ahead.
>>
>> You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comment. Where do
>> you find that advice?
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-7#cite_note-0
>
http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html
> "It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7
> charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite
> capable of carrying UTF-8, and UTF-8 is expected to be used in many
> protocols, not just Internet mail. Fortunately, very few vendors
> implemented UTF-7, and its use is strongly discouraged in Internet
> mail."
>
> Essentially it was never a great solution to the problem it was
> supposed to address (didn't really beat existing methods, UTF-8 in
> MIME generally turned out to be better). Still, whatever reader Marko
> is using should be able to handle it, if it is GMail then it's a bug
> in that.
I am using KMail (version 4.8.5 that seems to be current for F16). My gmail
account is used only to transport mail, I almost never use gmail's web
interface (it's just awful...). :-)
I looked around in the "set encoding" menu in KMail, but UTF-7 was not offered
as a choice. UTF-8 and UTF-16 were, along with a whole bunch of others, but
UTF-7 does not appear to be supported.
Maybe it's a bug, maybe it was ignored on purpose, maybe the devs just forgot
about supporting a deprecated encoding system... Couldn't find out, google
didn't find any relevant bug reports AFAICT.
But it doesn't matter much anyway. The bigger problem is the mailing list
archives, as Ed pointed out. If I look at Tim's original post on the archives,
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/425826.html
one can see that the encoding isn't right. However, I can see that Firefox
also does not offer UTF-7 as an encoding choice (and I bet none of the modern
web browsers do), so anyone watching the archives will have trouble
understanding Tim's e-mail...
Best, :-)
Marko
It's interesting because in ThunderBird 16.0.1 on Fedora Rawhide an email that
Tim sent thru shows this in his comments:
In the /etc/default/grub file, I added this line:
GRUB+AF8-GFXMODE+AD0-800x600
Then ran the +ACI-grub2-mkconfig+ACI command to regenerate the config file used
While the response to Tim's email (including the lines above) show them displayed as:
In the /etc/default/grub file, I added this line:
GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600
Then ran the "grub2-mkconfig" command to regenerate the config file used
at boot time.
Which is the correct way for it to be displayed. So it doesn't look like Thunderbird
16.0.1 likes UTF-7 anymore than some other
clients. I missed what the point of setting UTF-7 was in the first place but it seems to
break more than it fixes.
Kevin