Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney
<mhaney(a)ercbroadband.org> wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>
>>> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
>>> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
>>> purpose.
>> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
>> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
>> function while not actually working with anything that previously
>> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
>> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
>> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
>> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.
>>
> No kidding. Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
> another laptop (mine). It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM. A
> fresh install. I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
> network info (wired). Logged in as myself.
If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.
So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and
NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have
provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people
needlessly disrespect their work.
I think the issue comes when you are not using DHCP as many do. If over
the years, you have used setup scripts the NM default approach is a problem.
On this fresh install I had to setup my network info in NM at first.
Then I moved to network services and turned off NM. A two step approach
to get back to the Old way.
As for network info, I found I had to edit the /etc/sysconfig/networking
manually because system-config-network kept corrupting the settings. I
need to do some testing and file a bug report.
--
Robin Laing