On 06/10/2016 03:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chris Murphy
<lists(a)colorremedies.com> wrote:
> Clicking the Apply button does not reload the connections, so the
> settings change does not take effect. I either have to do 'nmcli c
> reload' or in the GUI click on Wired, then change On to Off to back
> On. And now it works as expected. GENERAL.DEFAULT is now no for this
> wired connection, and ip route show no longer shows it as default via.
>
> Sooo... if someone wants to test this on Fedora 23 in GNOME to see if
> this Apply bug happens there, it would be great to know if it's a
> regression or not, and note this in the bug.
>
> Thanks!
OK I replicated this on the Fedora 23 Server NUC and oops, lost ssh
entirely. I think what's going on is since wireless is now default,
ssh comes up only on wireless and not on wired?
I don't believe that's the case. Typically that stuff is dependent on
if the _network_ (any network) is up or not, NOT what _kind_ of network
it is. The problem is determining what runs (and when) based on network
status is driven by the spectacularly over-complicated and broken
systemd crapola. There might be something in there that breaks in these
cases. It sure as h*ll wouldn't be the first time systemd was hosed or
had race conditions.
<soap>
Using NM for anything headless is a bad idea. Using NM and DHCP for a
headless unit is a REALLY bad idea. NM, DHCP and wireless for a
headless unit is bordering on insanity. That's just my opinion, but I
do manage a data center with about 300 servers and since I don't have
time (nor the desire) to debug NM-related issues, I don't permit NM on
them. We only use the old, reliable network script stuff. It's like an
old VW Beetle...slow, ugly, noisy and smelly, but seems to always run.
</soap>
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