On 01/03/2014 10:58 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
>> On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
>>> On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>>>> This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
>>>>
>>>> Only once has this produced an update for me:
>>>>
>>>> [root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
>>>> Resolving dependencies
>>>> --> Starting dependency resolution
>>>> --> Finished dependency resolution
>>>> Dependencies resolved.
>>>> Nothing to do.
>>>>
>>>> But yum update a moment later:
>>>>
>>>> Transaction Summary
>>>>
=========================================================================================================================================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Install 2 Packages
>>>> Upgrade 23 Packages
>>>>
>>>> Total download size: 45 M
>>>> Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
>>>>
>>>> And it went through to complete this morning's update.
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong? DNF man page shows an update command ,,,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bob,
>>>
>>> that's expected:
>>>
>>>
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-diffe...
>>>
>>> Ales
>>
>> That seems counterproductive. If there are updates to be had then dnf needs to
find them and apply them. Blaming metadata timing
>> to result in no updates is a dodge and needs to be corrected. If not seeing
available updates is not considered "a real update
>> problem" then what is? Yet another place where dnf will need to improve
before becoming a yum replacement.
>
> You can get similar "inconsistency" with just yum on two different
computers sitting under your desk because they are on different
> metadata expiry timer, and can also end up using different mirrors.
>
> - Panu -
>
Agreed, but if dnf is expecting to be a yum replacement then shouldn't it do updates
*better* than yum? What's the point if not to
have an improved tool? If it's just going to be the same old thing then why bother?
Kevin
There is an ongoing discussion on devel@ group about dnf being 100%
compatible with yum. Some people say that it should behave exactly like
yum (I think including all current "bugs".) I don't know if you should
expect any improvements in dnf other than speed, they're just to
controversial for some people afraid of changes.
Mateusz Marzantowicz