On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:
Hi,
as you may have heared, Fedora is now running on Pinephone and other
devices, that need bleeding edge versions to function.
Status of Fedora Pine as of 15:15 CET
Cams now working, but app needs rework
Mobile INET working
WIFI working
Touch working
SMS working
GPS working
Calls partly, "calls app" does not connect to pulseaudio.
Headphones ( sort of )
Mali400 GPU support working ( MPV rulez )
Do note that this is a Fedora remix right? Since it's using a non fedora
kernel + packages not in fedora. :)
But we will get to a fedora spin someday.
and with Gnome(38) instead of Phosh.. no window problems! Big Thanks to
nikhiljha <
https://github.com/nikhiljha>and his copr repo.
O== my request
In the last 3 days alone several updates ( i.e. bind-libs, gnome-shell
40~alpha ) caused a lot of bugs and needed to be downgraded directly from
koji,
by first finding & downloading them with wget ( because of the slow wifi and
dependency checks, direct http links work ofcourse ), and later downgraded
with
dnf, which is so to speak, a pain in the ass. Of course, the best way to
handle it would be, if the os compenents came from stable repos, so that
these problems do not happen. But as i said, bleeding edge is needed atm.
Is it possible to keep at least the last version of a package around in
rawhide repo, to make dnf downgrade work? That would ease a lot of this
pain.
This has been a long time request. It's been shot down in the past due
to the massive size increase (keeping 2x as many packages), and the
issue of keeping around old packages that may have security issues.
The last time this came up I think someone suggested perhaps that we
keep old updates only for like a week, then drop them. That would give
most people who update frequently a downgrade for a week, then (we hope)
the thing is pretty stable.
Of course Adam is right that we probibly don't want to spend too much
time on this. I might file a pungi RFR on it tho.
I know that there is a native koji tool to handle rawhide, but i must
say,
that won't work in most cases. Let me explain:
Pine has announced to open stores in the US and Canada, because of the huge
amount of requests for a pinephone. As it looks, this phone, as cheap as it
compontants are, fills a gap of some kind. Therefor we will have much more
user using it, and (i hope i can help with it) will use Fedora with
Gnome-Shell.
Phosh is more like Android, it has it charm, but tbh I, and people I showned
it to, love they way gnome-shell handles stuff.
We "may" get them to downgrade stuff with dnf, but that needs to be as
simple as it could.
Hopefully before too long we can get things working with 100% fedora and
then move to stable releases.
kevin