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Outage Notification - 2009-07-01 01:00 UTC
by Mike McGrath 24 Aug '23

24 Aug '23

There will be an outage starting at 2009-07-01 01:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-07-01 01:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Unaffected Services: Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Websites Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1496 Reason for Outage: Final migration step for new cvs server. It will hopefully be offline for only 30-45 minutes. The additional time is for some further tuning if needed and some verification steps. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce

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upgrading RH 9 system->Fedora with iso files and apt only
by Didier Casse 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

I have the yarrow's iso files on my HD in a RH9 system. Let's say I want to upgrade selected packages using an "apt-get install" pointing to my iso-mounted files, how do I do it? i.e I mount the iso into some /mnt/yarrow1, /mnt/yarrow 2 etc.. Then what is the complete procedure to make my apt look into my own HD to upgrade packages. Can anybody redirect me to the correct resource or some literature hanging on the web? Thanks. Assume also that I do not wish to burn CDs! I do not want to use apt-cdrom. Thanks. With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg \or\ didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg

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git push permission denied
by Neal Becker 10 Feb '21

10 Feb '21

I just had to setup a new machine, and new ssh keys. I visited https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/edit/xxxx I chose my new id_rsa.pub to upload. But I get: git push --verbose Pushing to ssh://nbecker@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/mercurial Permission denied (publickey). fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Hints?

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Expanding the list of "Hardened Packages"
by Dhiru Kholia 22 Jul '14

22 Jul '14

Hi, This proposal was originally at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1104 (mitr asked me to move the discussion to fedora-devel to get more attention and feedback) ... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hardened_Packages page mentions that "FESCo requires some packages to use PIE and relro hardening by default." It would be great if this list could be expanded to include even more packages which are at comparatively more risk of being exploited (locally or remotely). Such packages will typically include various system daemons, network daemons and network enabled applications. Lot of network daemons are already using PIE and RELRO (e.g. httpd, MariaDB). So a natural question is why packages in same "network daemons" class like PostgreSQL, Dovecot and MongoDB aren't being hardened? Some of the ways to implement this proposal are, 1. Hardening flags should be turned on (by default) for all packages which are at comparatively more risk of being exploited or which meet some well-defined criteria (suggestions welcome). "Packaging Guidelines" say that "Other packages may enable the flags at the maintainer's discretion." Thinking from a security perspective, I find "Hardening flags can only be disabled for other packages at the maintainer's discretion provided enough justification is given to FESCo" to be more appropriate. 2. An alternate approach is to come up with an expanded list of packages which should be hardened. Any feedback is welcome! -- Dhiru

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Strange ssh / openldap linking problem
by Richard W.M. Jones 21 Mar '14

21 Mar '14

I'm not sure whether or not this is a bug, but it sure looks strange. $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/ssh openssh-clients-6.1p1-6.fc18.x86_64 $ ldd /usr/bin/ssh|grep ldap libldap-2.4.so.2 => /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2 (0x00007fad274fc000) /usr/lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2 is a symbolic link to a symbolic link which passes through a -devel package. /usr/lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2 -> libldap.so # openldap-2.4.34-1.fc18 /usr/lib64/libldap.so -> libldap-2.4.so.2.9.0 # openldap-devel-2.4.34-1.fc18 /usr/lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2.9.0 is a real file # openldap-2.4.34-1.fc18 To cut a long story short, I fixed this by uninstalling openldap-devel and reinstalling it. Now there is no -devel package in the chain: $ ldd /usr/bin/ssh | grep ldap libldap-2.4.so.2 => /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2 (0x00007fe8caf69000) /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2 -> libldap-2.4.so.2.9.0 I'd like to understand how the original situation happened, because it broke a supermin-built appliance (RHBZ#954185). I assume ldconfig must have something to do with it. There is nothing unusual in the %scripts of openldap (it just runs ldconfig as you'd expect), nor is there any special openssh/openldap config file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/

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F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool
by Jaroslav Reznik 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Rollback Change owner(s): Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh(a)redhat.com>, Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> With the advent of thinly-provisioned LVM pools, it has become possible for us to implement full-system LVM snapshotting for recording rollback points. We are planning to support this for yum updates and eventually fedup upgrades going forwards. This change request notes the addition of new tools provided by the roller-derby project to present an interface and a CLI for managing and initiating rollbacks. == Detailed description == The roller-derby project will be providing a library and a CLI for creating, labeling and managing LVM snapshots (plus non-LVM backups of /boot), oriented primarily towards rpm-managed data, but useful beyond that. The yum plugin "yum-plugin-fs-snapshot" will be updated to consume this library and save the system state in a compatible format. The roller-derby CLI tool will provide an interactive and scriptable interface for manipulating these snapshots and determining when to remove older ones. It will also allow the tagging of snapshots as "known-good", to be skipped when automatically-trimming for space. The roller-derby project will likely provide a small daemon to keep track of the available space in the LVM pool to proactively clean up snapshots before the system runs out of space. In order to prevent "loss" of data when rebooting into an snapshot, the roller-derby CLI will allow saving a snapshot of the current state before rolling back and will provide tools to allow mounting of that current state to recover changes that have occurred since the rollback point. == Scope == The scope of this project is the completion of the initial release of the roller-derby project and the inclusion of thinly-provisioned LVM as an option in the Anaconda installer [1]. Proposal owners: We need to complete the roller-derby project. Other than the Anaconda change referenced above, all dependencies are available in Fedora already. Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Q: webfonts:
by Alec Leamas 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Hi! I'm trying to package a web application with bundled fonts. These fonts are used by the web clients (browsers), and just served from the Fedora webapp. The case is similar to javascript .js files. Trying to package the webfonts as dependencies I have run into problem together with my reviewer. Basically, we don't know what to do. Some questions: - Where should webfonts be stored? A specific dir would be good, since some fonts exists in both a webfont and desktop variant with the same filenames. - How shoulld webapps get access to the system webfont? Is the apache config file approach used for ..js files, where the webapp gets access to specific system paths, usable also here? - Given that the primary concern about fonts seems to be licensing, is it really meaningful to unbundle them? This is the short story. The somewhat longer: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/277 Any help, out there? --alec

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I would like to become the owner of gnome-colors-icon-theme
by Miro Hrončok 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Hi, according to [1] I should "Announce on devel which packages you would like to become the owner of." So that's it. BTW Was this really necessary? The Review request is at [2]. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1003009 -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Graphics driver support in F21+
by Adam Jackson 29 Oct '13

29 Oct '13

For F21, I plan to orphan the following X video drivers: xorg-x11-drv-apm xorg-x11-drv-cirrus xorg-x11-drv-geode xorg-x11-drv-glint xorg-x11-drv-i128 xorg-x11-drv-i740 xorg-x11-drv-mach64 xorg-x11-drv-mga xorg-x11-drv-neomagic xorg-x11-drv-r128 xorg-x11-drv-rendition xorg-x11-drv-s3virge xorg-x11-drv-savage xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion xorg-x11-drv-sis xorg-x11-drv-tdfx xorg-x11-drv-trident Effectively this means that the graphics team will be focusing on KMS for graphics support, with vesa and fbdev available as last-ditch fallbacks. If anyone is interested in taking on support for these chips, they're welcome to, though we would encourage anyone doing so to work towards KMS support and not merely do "keep it building" maintenance. One other detail: the intel driver currently has both UMS support for the i810 chipset, and KMS support for everything newer. To be consistent with the above changes I'll be dropping the i810 support, which will then fall back to vesa. Again, if someone wants to own the i810 support, let me know and we can add you as a comaintainer. - ajax

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Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?
by Kevin Kofler 24 Oct '13

24 Oct '13

Hi, the current xine-lib maintainer speaking. :-) The Xine project: http://www.xine-project.org/home has recently released a new major version, version 1.2.0. Unfortunately, among the list of changes: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xine/files/xine-lib/1.2.0/README.txt.asc/vi… there are these new "features": * Use libavutil-provided implementations for CRC, SHA1 and BASE64 algorithms, this makes use of libavutil even outside the FFmpeg decoding plugin, but avoid duplication of algorithms between different plugins. * Use av_mallocz() when xine_xmalloc_aligned() wouldn't be needed. * FFmpeg is now required as an external dependency; if you want to build xine-lib from source, please download a copy of FFmpeg from their SVN server. which basically mean that xine-lib now has a global, non-optional dependency on FFmpeg's libavutil library. So there are 4 possible ways forward: (a) Stick with 1.1.x forever. I don't think that's a good idea in the long run, upstream won't be providing security fixes for the old branch forever. (b) Package libavutil (and only libavutil) from FFmpeg in Fedora. (I don't think libavutil, as opposed to libavcodec, is actually patent-encumbered, though that'd also have to be checked.) The issue there is that FFmpeg upstream obviously doesn't support this. It would need some more black packaging magic of the kind already done in xine-lib, and more legal auditing. I don't think I want to investigate going down that road. (c) Bundle parts or all of libavutil with xine-lib. Yuck!!! (d) Move the whole thing (back) to RPM Fusion (where it originally was, before we started needing xine-lib for Amarok and Phonon, which both no longer use it). It would go to the Free section, of course. My proposal is to go with (d). The following packages currently depend on xine-lib: * gxine * (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected) * kaffeine (my package, the reason why I maintain xine-lib in the first place) * oxine * xine-plugin * xine-ui These packages would have to move to RPM Fusion along with xine-lib. In Kaffeine's case, upstream is switching from xine-lib to MPlayer in their git repository, so it will likely have to move to RPM Fusion sooner or later anyway. This means the affected packages are basically *xine*. So my plan is to retire (for my packages, resp. have the respective maintainer retire) the listed packages in Fedora for Fedora ≥ 17 and get (or have the respective maintainer get) them into RPM Fusion Free instead. (I'd take care of xine-lib and kaffeine myself, I hope the maintainers of the other packages will take care of them.) Comments? Objections? Kevin Kofler

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