On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Marius Schwarz <fedoradev(a)cloud-foo.de> wrote:
Hi,
as you may have heared, Fedora is now running on Pinephone and other devices, that need
bleeding edge versions to function.
Status of Fedora Pine as of 15:15 CET
Cams now working, but app needs rework
Mobile INET working
WIFI working
Touch working
SMS working
GPS working
Calls partly, "calls app" does not connect to pulseaudio.
Headphones ( sort of )
Mali400 GPU support working ( MPV rulez )
and with Gnome(38) instead of Phosh.. no window problems! Big Thanks to nikhiljha and
his copr repo.
O== my request
In the last 3 days alone several updates ( i.e. bind-libs, gnome-shell 40~alpha ) caused
a lot of bugs and needed to be downgraded directly from koji,
by first finding & downloading them with wget ( because of the slow wifi and
dependency checks, direct http links work ofcourse ), and later downgraded with
dnf, which is so to speak, a pain in the ass. Of course, the best way to handle it would
be, if the os compenents came from stable repos, so that these problems do not happen. But
as i said, bleeding edge is needed atm.
Is it possible to keep at least the last version of a package around in rawhide repo, to
make dnf downgrade work? That would ease a lot of this pain.
I know that there is a native koji tool to handle rawhide, but i must say, that won't
work in most cases. Let me explain:
Pine has announced to open stores in the US and Canada, because of the huge amount of
requests for a pinephone. As it looks, this phone, as cheap as it compontants are, fills a
gap of some kind. Therefor we will have much more user using it, and (i hope i can help
with it) will use Fedora with Gnome-Shell.
Phosh is more like Android, it has it charm, but tbh I, and people I showned it to, love
they way gnome-shell handles stuff.
We "may" get them to downgrade stuff with dnf, but that needs to be as simple
as it could.
I'm wondering, wouldn't this scenario be a prime application of an
OSTree based system like Silverblue?
It would give you exactly what you want, being able to revert to the
previous (working) version if the new one breaks something. Even
Android does something like this nowadays.
Fabio