devel November 2005

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upgrading RH 9 system->Fedora with iso files and apt only
by Didier Casse 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

I have the yarrow's iso files on my HD in a RH9 system. Let's say I want to upgrade selected packages using an "apt-get install" pointing to my iso-mounted files, how do I do it? i.e I mount the iso into some /mnt/yarrow1, /mnt/yarrow 2 etc.. Then what is the complete procedure to make my apt look into my own HD to upgrade packages. Can anybody redirect me to the correct resource or some literature hanging on the web? Thanks. Assume also that I do not wish to burn CDs! I do not want to use apt-cdrom. Thanks. With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg \or\ didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg

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Self-Introduction: Denis Ovsienko and /etc/net project
by Denis Ovsienko 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

Denis Ovsienko Russia, Moscow Linux system administrator and developer ValueCommerce/Russia I develop /etc/net project (http://etcnet.org) and my goal is to integrate it into Fedora Core. I am a member of ALTLinux Team. /etc/net is already integrated into ALTLinux development tree and should soon be seen in 3.0 version. I know that ArchLinux has /etc/net in its repository. IDMS Linux did so too, but i haven't heard from them for last months. My skills include 6 years Linux experience, several programming languages, 5 years of mixed software development and system/network administration and so on, but I guess it's not related much to my goal now. I have reviewed current initscripts buglist. Some bugs are not bugs in /etc/net: #65114 RFE: ifup-aliases iproute support, ifup/ifup-aliases scop... #75390 it would be nice to tie bandwidth shaping into the networ... #129820 initscripts maclist patch #132252 Request for addition of routing rule config file #132912 No additional IP addresses at ethX without aliased devices #132925 initscripts use old ifconfig instead of iproute2 #154348 Adds support for WPA (Wi-Fi Protected Access) to the ifup... #168990 No ifup-gre/ifdown-gre scripts. #170884 MTU of ethernet card can't be set before interface is up #171763 Enhancement to initscripts Some bugs gave me ideas how to improve /etc/net: #59114 .d-style scripts for ifup/ifdown #119952 RFE: Add hook for "local" network initialization #124045 Support setting a metric on interface routes The whole process, if we don't face some unexpected problems, should take 3 to 6 months. What I need: 1. Ability to advocate patches (sometimes heavy) to about 10-20 FC packages. 2. Probably some help with documentation. How can we start? pub 1024D/6D1844F2 2002-11-11 Key fingerprint = AF2F DDAE 7EB3 4699 09FF F0FC 00B1 6D41 6D18 44F2 uid Denis Ovsienko <linux(a)pilot.org.ua> uid Denis Ovsienko (http://pilot.org.ua) <pilot(a)altlinux.ru> sub 2048g/57B7ACBE 2002-11-11 -- DO4-UANIC

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autoconf breakage on x86_64.
by Sam Varshavchik 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

I don't know the right way to fix this, but something is definitely broken; and something needs to be fixed, one way or the other. The question is what exactly needs to be fixed. Consider something like this: LIBS="-lresolv $LIBS" AC_TRY_LINK_FUNC(res_query, AC_MSG_RESULT(yes), AC_MSG_RESULT(no)) Here's what happens on x86_64: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. conftest.c -lresolv >&5 /tmp/ccW7EeDX.o(.text+0x7): In function `main': /home/mrsam/src/courier/authlib/configure:5160: undefined reference to `res_query' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure:5147: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: [ blah blah blah ] | /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 | builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ | char res_query (); | int | main () | { | res_query (); | ; | return 0; | } The same exact test on FC1 x86 will work. The reason appears to be that you have to #include <resolv.conf> on x86_64 in order to succesfully pull res_query() out of libresolv.so. You don't need to do this on x86, and the test program generated by AC_TRY_LINK_FUNC does not include any headers, but uses a manual prototype. So, what now?

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Zeroconf in FC5?
by Daryll Strauss 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

I saw zeroconf in action at a Mac based facility a while back and I have to say I was impressed. It makes their networking setup very easy. The biggest downside was that they knew very little about how their network actually worked. That made my life integrating a Linux system in to their environment much more difficult. So, I'd like to see zeroconf really integrated in to FC5. I think it'll make network setup for a lot of users much easier. For those who don't know, zeroconf provides several functions: *) Dynamically allocating an IP address to a system when it boots (without requiring a DHCP server) *) Translate between names and IP addresses (without any setup or directory server) *) Allows for the publishing and discovery of services such as DNS, NFS, ftp, http, printers, whatever (without requiring any setup or directory server) *) Allocates multicast addresses (without a MADCAP server). (This part isn't yet supported and I'm not sure I know what it means :)) Fedora ships with Howl which looks to be the framework for doing zeroconf. It seems that what's needed is integrating howl in to all the appropriate places. - |Daryll

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Yum and SRPMs
by n0dalus 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Hi, I was wondering if is or ever will be possible to install srpms using yum. In the yum manpage it says you can specify a package using 'package.arch', so I was wondering if that could be done with 'package.src'. I think this would really be a helpful feature. At the moment to get a srpm I have to go to one of the ftp mirrors, find the right folder then search for the right package among hundreds of other files. n0dalus.

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Stateless linux and an idea of mine for SMALL networks without servers
by Nic 24 Feb '06

24 Feb '06

Disclaimer: I hope that this is the right mailing list, but I really wanted to reach developers would can say if it's feasible and what to use for that. Anyway, I was fighting the usual problems with networks and came up with the following dream to make my life easier as a network admin. Basically I am tired of fixing things, of worrying if a hard disk will die, of having to deal with data access, backup etc... I was thinking this through by looking at how most of my coworkers, friends, and small offices use their PCs in day-to-day operations and applying that work flow to a solution. Before, somebody screams, this means little or moderate daily data generation so that, basically, a laptop drive could hold the entire company's data. (This may require email-purge rules and other things like that). Anyway here it is: Basically, I suggest that (almost) all PCs in the network be laptops with the exact same image. Furthermore, they replicate their HD continuously (with possibly some delay). This certainly applies to the user data and application. It may not be necessary for the OS I am not sure of the technology to use here, but I thought something deriving from the P-to-P technology, some distributed file system, some database replication technology or even freenet could be a good base. Since every laptop will contain ALL the data for the whole network, every laptop uses hardware encryption at the hard disk level using an external dongle/card/whatever to limit the risk when a laptop is lost or stolen. Additionally, every login ALSO uses a dongle/card for access to their account. This makes it (almost) impossible for somebody stealing a laptop to get access to the whole data. Additionally, it makes it (alomst) impossible for somebody to fet to other people's data. If a system dies, you just get a new one and sync it up. However, one main idea is that you always have EVERYTHING you need right where you are, no matter WHERE you are. Also, there is no UPS to worry about. Communication between PCs could be implemented using VPN/IPSec or whatever other protected mechanism. Internet access would have to be "sandboxed", but UNIX based OSes allow for that easily. That's the gist of it. A lot of things can be configured in many ways, but the whole point here is to simplify people's life. Look at it from a disaster recovery: a lot of people bring their laptop home. Even if the company's building burns down as well as a few employees homes, one surviving laptop is enough to bring the business back online. Pros: * seamless company disaster recovery * seamless personal computer loss recovery (you lose everything since the last sync) * you can use ANY laptop and find YOUR own environment and files * no central server/single point of failure * no UPS except for the internet firewall (this comes from the PCs being laptops) Cons: * sync across a lot of PCs might be tricky and needs to be tuned. Maybe randonly select one as master like the SMB Master browser election works? * each laptop needs to have enough space for the whole company's data * maybe not appropriate for disk intensive applications (video capture...) I wanted to post it here for other people to use if they think it's a good idea. (and also to preempt any proprietary company from saying "me first") It seems that Windows Vista is coming with some automatic synchronization across two PCs so, that's one step towards it, but we have different goals. I posted this somewhere and somebody pointed me toward stateless linux and it seems pretty cool and close to what I was thinking of. I'll look smoe more into it, but does anybody see this as useful for VERY SMALL networks? (I already got bashed by enterprise admins sneernig at people who don't want a rack server, so if that's your intent, just reply "me too"). Feel free to comment (I know people will). Nick

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Rawhide kickstart install did not exclude packages
by Orion Poplawski 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just did a kickstart install of rawhide and it did not exclude the packages I had marked with "-name". Is this a known issue? - - Orion -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDgkTDORnzrtFC2/sRAk3jAJ4qttAv1PdVoSAPZUb6Ioj1wA9T5gCfWiyB G3VvHaMm3vVSQwSAP6gQWEo= =vt6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kernel issues
by Trever L. Adams 01 Feb '06

01 Feb '06

During the FC4 development cycle I mistakenly asked for 2.6.12 to be included because it "had" the ip_conntrack for ipv6. This was based on something I read. It turns out the person was misquoting. The USAGI project was promising this for a patch for 2.6.12. It was never included at least to my knowledge. My wish list for FC5 includes the following: TARPIT target for IPTABLES (I think it is already included). connlimit (and friends) matching for the kernel, this exists in documentation but has not yet made the mainstream kernel. Help should be given to get it there and it should be included. ip6_conntrack (or whatever it's name is) should be given similar help and should be included. Other than that, most of my wishes are ready being addressed. I do think these are very important for both desktop and server/firewall machines. Thank you, Trever Adams -- "I conceive that a great part of the miseries of mankind are brought upon them by the false estimates they have made of the value of things." -- Benjamin Franklin

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system-config-sshd ?
by Arthur Pemberton 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

Hello, I have been a Fedora user since FC1, and now I'd like to contribute to the project. I know some Python, but no GUI (as yet). My more tested programming skills lie is pascal and delphi. I am interested in building a cnfiguration tool for sshd to help me learn the python language better, and also to contribute to the fedora project. But I need some help: Knowledge - HOWTOs, tutorial, whitepapers, etc that I need to read to properly write a system-config applicat ion Rules - Standards, and guidelines that I shoudl follow Technologies - gui toolkits, modules, etc that I should stick to in learning and building a system-config tool. Thanks for your assistance and time. PS: the fedora-config-list is dead, so I'm reposting here

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Fedora general improvements input survey invitation
by Tim Burke 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

The Fedora Core team invites you to participate in a survey to help identify the major ways in which Fedora can be improved for the benefit of the community. The survey consists of 10 questions involving Fedora Core and Fedora Extras. We are greatly interested in your views and hope you can share your thoughts with us. The survey is available at: http://www.keysurvey.com/survey/85928/1078/ The survey is enabled now and will remain open for input until Wednesday, November 30. Thanks in advance for helping us to make Fedora better for all involved. Upon conclusion of the survey, a summary of the results will be shared.

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