I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you have to use Adaptec's extra driver disk, you don't want it, you will have to redo the driver on *EACH* kernel update, and it will be a big problem each time to remember to do it (and if you don't the machine won't boot the new kernel).
If it works through dm-raid you should be ok, I don't remember if the Adaptec HostRAID works properly through dm-raid, I kind of think that it did start working a version or two ago, but I don't remember for sure, you should probably look on the dm-raid mailing list for more information about it, and for any gotcha reported with it.
Roger
On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 10:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you have to use Adaptec's extra driver disk, you don't want it, you will have to redo the driver on *EACH* kernel update, and it will be a big problem each time to remember to do it (and if you don't the machine won't boot the new kernel).
If it works through dm-raid you should be ok, I don't remember if the Adaptec HostRAID works properly through dm-raid, I kind of think that it did start working a version or two ago, but I don't remember for sure, you should probably look on the dm-raid mailing list for more information about it, and for any gotcha reported with it.
Roger
I find that when doing RAID it is safer to use the Linux software RAID unless I am using a very beefy and well supported add on RAID card.
I ran F6 on an X5DAL with no problem for over a year. But F8 appeared to no longer support the Intel SATA chipset it uses. There's various versions of them out there. I wouldn't be surprised if Supermicro uses different vendors for that hardware within same or similar model lines, depending on availability. If it loads a driver for it you'll probably be fine. Try it and see.
Steve Snyder swsnyder@insightbb.com wrote: I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
HostRAID is just software RAID implemented in a device driver. It was originally intended for use with operating systems that lack a generic software RAID implementation. Since Linux has a robust and well-optimized generic software RAID implementation (two of them, actually), it's rather silly to use HostRAID under Linux.
-- Chris
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 2:53:53 pm Chris Snook wrote:
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
HostRAID is just software RAID implemented in a device driver. It was originally intended for use with operating systems that lack a generic software RAID implementation. Since Linux has a robust and well-optimized generic software RAID implementation (two of them, actually), it's rather silly to use HostRAID under Linux.
Thanks for the info, Chris.
I'm a total RAID newbie and thought that the HostRAID BIOS support and Linux device driver worked together, rather than being redundant.
Steve Snyder wrote:
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 2:53:53 pm Chris Snook wrote:
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
HostRAID is just software RAID implemented in a device driver. It was originally intended for use with operating systems that lack a generic software RAID implementation. Since Linux has a robust and well-optimized generic software RAID implementation (two of them, actually), it's rather silly to use HostRAID under Linux.
Thanks for the info, Chris.
I'm a total RAID newbie and thought that the HostRAID BIOS support and Linux device driver worked together, rather than being redundant.
That's not entirely false. Recent device mapper will attempt to detect a HostRAID configuration and emulate it with dm-raid, but this isn't foolproof, and offers no benefit over simply configuring dm-raid directly. If you want to use mdadm for software RAID, you should definitely disable HostRAID entirely, as it will only cause problems.
Before you ask, I have no recommendations regarding dm-raid vs. mdadm. Both generally work fine. dm-raid is newer and shinier, while mdadm is more established and better documented.
-- Chris
Chris Snook wrote:
Steve Snyder wrote:
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 2:53:53 pm Chris Snook wrote:
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
HostRAID is just software RAID implemented in a device driver. It was originally intended for use with operating systems that lack a generic software RAID implementation. Since Linux has a robust and well-optimized generic software RAID implementation (two of them, actually), it's rather silly to use HostRAID under Linux.
Thanks for the info, Chris.
I'm a total RAID newbie and thought that the HostRAID BIOS support and Linux device driver worked together, rather than being redundant.
That's not entirely false. Recent device mapper will attempt to detect a HostRAID configuration and emulate it with dm-raid, but this isn't foolproof, and offers no benefit over simply configuring dm-raid directly. If you want to use mdadm for software RAID, you should definitely disable HostRAID entirely, as it will only cause problems.
And note that if you don't disable it and use the disks without hostraid or dmraid, months from now on a reboot the bios might mention that it thinks the array is out of sync, and ask if you want to fix it, if you say yes - your data could be gone, depending on exactly what configuration you had on the disks. I had a customer that did a reinstall without the hostraid driver (before dmraid supported it) saw 2 disks, and used both, and months later the bios mentioned out-of-sync and the customer allowed it to correct the "problem".
Before you ask, I have no recommendations regarding dm-raid vs. mdadm. Both generally work fine. dm-raid is newer and shinier, while mdadm is more established and better documented.
-- Chris
dm-raid working with the bios should be easier on a primary disk failure, but is newer and probably also has more bugs so that may offset that ability.
mdadm does work well but on a bad failure you need the ability to understand what happened to understand how to best fix it. I generally use mdadm because of the more established and better documented, and I expect to be able to figure out exactly how to fix it without data loss. And mdadm disks can be moved to any linux machine that can support those disks and be expected to work, were the HostRAID disks may have to be moved to another similar HostRAID machine to be readable, so if you have a MB failure, mdadm has more options.
Roger
Hi Steve,
You may also consider the info on this site:
http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html
Albert.
Steve Snyder wrote:
I'm thinking of using the embedded Adaptec SATA HostRAID functionality on my Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard.
Does anyone have any experience using Adaptec's HostRAID with Fedora 7/8/9? Any success or horror stories to relate?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.