On 4/5/19 2:36 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
ToddAndMargo via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> writes:
> Okay one last slam at RHEL:
As someone who works full-time on RHEL[*], please consider that your
understanding of what RHEL is and who it is for may color your
experience with it. You are not the ideal RHEL customer, so of course
it doesn't meet your strict needs for constant change, bug-free
operation, and free support.
And perhaps your time is not as valuable to you as it is to the myriad
employees who have to qualify and certify their applications on a dozen
or more operating systems and a wide range of specific hardware
configurations just to make a living, but feel free to self-certify
anything you use if that's what you need, or hire someone to do it on
I hope you find a distro that makes you happy, but please don't consider
other distros to be "bad" just because they aren't right for you.
[*] and Fedora, and upstream, but I officially speak for none of them...
You are correct.
My experience with RHEL and clones has been a technical and
financial disaster. Other's experience may and do vary.
I was expecting a "stable" OS, but did not realize that
"stable" meant "frozen" not high quality or lack of crashing.
Now on timing issue with C236 chipsets, which cost me over
2000 U$D to figure out in free consulting (it was "fun"
working all night rebuilding a server),
7.2 not compatible with C236 and RSTe motherboard:
Supermicro even offered to give you whatever hardware you required
and you still refused to remediate it.
Now this was my fault as RHEL is following the Open Source model:
give away the software for free and charge for consulting.
Same as the Code Weavers and Wine. As a one man shop, that
was way, way out of my financial capability. So for me, RHEL
is an "As Is" OS. No Kaisen (constant improvement) will ever
happen, unless someone with far greater funding than I
trips across the same problem and can afford to put you guys
on their payroll.
I should have realized this years ago. It would have saved me a lot
of agony and money. Fedora is a wonderful Kaisen OS and is a
perfect match for me. Things get fixed in Fedora (usually), but
seldom in RHEL unless you can afford to payroll Red Hat.
By the way "CentOS" or Community Operating System, is not
"Community" in the sense that Fedora is. There is no
Kaisen in CentOS either as it is a clone of RHEL. "Community"
in CentOS's context is a bunch of really nice guys will
to help you. And they are extraordinary fellows.
By the way, I use qemu-KVM constantly. It is MISERABLE
under RHEL but wonderful under Fedora. RHEL can not run
any of the wonderful fixes and enhancements the KVM project
has come up with. And the irony that KVM is also a Red hat
project is not lost on me.
RHEL is great for a set and forget application. And if
your are a large, well funded company that can put RHEL
on its payroll. RHEL does have its place. I just
misunderstood what "stable" meant.
If you are guessing that I am righteously pissed at Red Hat,
you are correct. I will get over it in a couple of years.