Hi,
I've been using Fedora for several months now, and really like it. I would really like to know more about the inner workings and eventually get RH certified, so I'm wondering what you long-time users or RH certified folks would recommend book-wise.
I've seen Mark Sobell's book on Amazon but it's a year old and I'm worried it would already be outdated. Besides the official Fedora Documentation, how can I learn more about the inner workings of my system? Many times when something goes wrong I have to appeal to others for advice, and while there is nothing wrong with that, I would like to know enough about my system to be able to troubleshoot and diagnose just about anything. I would also like to help others, and someday contribute back to the project. Right now I feel too ignorant to submit bug reports or try to contribute anything.
Besides daily use and experimenting, is there anything you'd recommend to move from casual user to power-user/contributor?
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The Mark Sobell books are GOOD; I've not heard any rumors regarding a RHEL7 update (sadly).A quick check/search showed me that the latest Fedora Bible is from 2011 for Fedora14. That is definitely dated. There is always (as you mentioned) the staple of existing Fedora Documentation. Which, you could always peruse and even work to enhance for the benefit of the community at-large, if you were so inclined.
There 'are' differences between RHEL6 and RHEL7, yet a lot of the insights he provides are still excellent studying material. I'd also recommend a good look through Red Hat's documentation, both for RHEL6 and RHEL7, from their web-site. Nice as it will be to study and get certified for RHEL7--- what guarantees will you have that the system's you'll actively work on will be v7, as opposed to v6. For the breadth of diversity, as well as providing optimal ROI to your current/future employer, being skilled on the nuances of both will likely garner greater success. Setting up your own Fedora/Red Hat machines (VMs!) at home is an excellent opportunity to broaden your skills, too. Demand more from yourself than anyone else can ever hope to request from you.
Your attitude of wanting to learn more and fix your own stuff is commendable... BRAVO!!I sense you'll do just fine and get past the learning curve, since you've the hunger to know more. Recommend you always seek to achieve success, that you push yourself to learn more, that you spend some portion of your time giving back, and that the 'output' you produce, in whatever form, for whomever... is always well-crafted (i.e. based on quality) versus quickly done (aka 'quantity'). There are times, certainly, when the required 'pace' is necessarily frenetic.... but when that becomes the norm, look out. I have been lucky to work for employers who want deadlines met, yet the focus is on achieving them with a quality product.
Wish you the very best success!
From: James Crace jmz@SDF.ORG To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:53 PM Subject: Book Recommendation for Fedora users?
Hi,
I've been using Fedora for several months now, and really like it. I would really like to know more about the inner workings and eventually get RH certified, so I'm wondering what you long-time users or RH certified folks would recommend book-wise.
I've seen Mark Sobell's book on Amazon but it's a year old and I'm worried it would already be outdated. Besides the official Fedora Documentation, how can I learn more about the inner workings of my system? Many times when something goes wrong I have to appeal to others for advice, and while there is nothing wrong with that, I would like to know enough about my system to be able to troubleshoot and diagnose just about anything. I would also like to help others, and someday contribute back to the project. Right now I feel too ignorant to submit bug reports or try to contribute anything.
Besides daily use and experimenting, is there anything you'd recommend to move from casual user to power-user/contributor?
-- jmz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org
On Jul 20, 2015 6:53 PM, "Joe Wulf" joe_wulf@yahoo.com wrote:
The Mark Sobell books are GOOD; I've not heard any rumors regarding a
RHEL7 update (sadly).
Mark did write a RHEL7 / Fedora 18 book, it's been out for a while. It's very readable and covers most all general topics. The changes since then have mainly been iterative or add-on stuff, or things like the three Editions that would not be in scope anyway. Whatever changes are left shouldn't confuse you once you have a handle on the material.
--Pete
James Crace jmz@sdf.org via https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en lists.fedoraproject.org 2:53 PM (2 hours ago)
to users Hi,
I>'ve been using Fedora for several months now, and really like it. I would really like to know more about the inner workings and eventually get RH certified, so I'm wondering what >you long-time users or RH certified folks would recommend book-wise.
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HI
Every book is out of date by the time it get published. So don't worry about that..
Start with basics...Bash, Sed and Awk... Get a feeling for these to start with.
HTH
Marvin
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM, James Crace jmz@sdf.org wrote:
Hi,
I've been using Fedora for several months now, and really like it. I would really like to know more about the inner workings and eventually get RH certified, so I'm wondering what you long-time users or RH certified folks would recommend book-wise.
I've seen Mark Sobell's book on Amazon but it's a year old and I'm worried it would already be outdated. Besides the official Fedora Documentation, how can I learn more about the inner workings of my system? Many times when something goes wrong I have to appeal to others for advice, and while there is nothing wrong with that, I would like to know enough about my system to be able to troubleshoot and diagnose just about anything. I would also like to help others, and someday contribute back to the project. Right now I feel too ignorant to submit bug reports or try to contribute anything.
Besides daily use and experimenting, is there anything you'd recommend to move from casual user to power-user/contributor?
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Hello James,
I would recommend you to start with any GNU+Linux manual (as 90% of what you will learn there will apply to Fedora) to then learn the specifics about the RHEL family.
A good starting point would be to define some projects (like 'put together a home server'), set some goals ('configure NFS and Samba for file sharing') then have fun while pulling your head's hair along the way, hehe.
Be sure to hang at Fedora's IRC channel, it's a nice place to ask and share experiences.
Cheers.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:21 PM Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 07/20/2015 05:11 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
Start with basics...Bash, Sed and Awk... Get a feeling for these to start with.
And grep, of course.
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James:
Books are a great idea, but don't forget the "How Tos" Google "how to samba fedora" Produces: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/12/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-samba...
Lots of free information available in the How Tos
Thomas Dineen
On 7/20/2015 7:38 PM, Martin Cigorraga wrote:
Hello James,
I would recommend you to start with any GNU+Linux manual (as 90% of what you will learn there will apply to Fedora) to then learn the specifics about the RHEL family.
A good starting point would be to define some projects (like 'put together a home server'), set some goals ('configure NFS and Samba for file sharing') then have fun while pulling your head's hair along the way, hehe.
Be sure to hang at Fedora's IRC channel, it's a nice place to ask and share experiences.
Cheers.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:21 PM Joe Zeff <joe@zeff.us mailto:joe@zeff.us> wrote:
On 07/20/2015 05:11 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > > Start with basics...Bash, Sed and Awk... Get a feeling for these to > start with. And grep, of course. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org