With great glee I tried updating to F9 but am very disappointed so have had to switch back to F8. I wonder if anyone else has had similar troubles. My main objection is that, to use Add/Remove Software F9 always goes onto the web for a mirror and this chews up connect time (for which I am charged through the nose after a certain limit has been passed). Hence, every time I hit a snag and have to re-install it costs me large amounts of connect time regardless of the fact that I am installing from a DVD. I find this excessively annoying. Also, many of the features of 9 seem to me to be worthless when compared to somewhat simpler versions of applications in F8. To get round the OOo version problem, I never install OpenOffice from the Fedora 8 disk but have kept a copy of the rpms and do the install from those after F8 is installed and I always then get the latest version. Does anyone know if it is possible to get ALL Fedora applications etc. (i.e. a complete repository) on DVD thus obviating the need to consume connect time? Thanks CroombeP
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 13:41 +0000, Croombe F. Pensom wrote:
I wonder if anyone else has had similar troubles. My main objection is that, to use Add/Remove Software F9 always goes onto the web for a mirror and this chews up connect time (for which I am charged through the nose after a certain limit has been passed).
Right. It wants to show you the latest versions of everything. Fedora is a fast moving distro.
Does anyone know if it is possible to get ALL Fedora applications etc. (i.e. a complete repository) on DVD thus obviating the need to consume connect time?
You'll be downloading about 80Gb of data, that almost instantly will become stale.
Richard.
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 13:41 +0000, Croombe F. Pensom wrote:
My main objection is that, to use Add/Remove Software F9 always goes onto the web for a mirror and this chews up connect time
You can set up a local repo with the installed files from your DVD, so that anything you install that hasn't had an update, will install from your repo. But anything that has since been updated will be grabbed from the net. That will minimise some of your problem. Basically, change the fedora.repo file to point to a local filesystem, rather than the internet. There are some "local repo" programs that can take care of that sort of thing for you.
And, you can increase the time your yum caches the info, so the next install will use the last downloaded info for a longer period.
Does anyone know if it is possible to get ALL Fedora applications etc. (i.e. a complete repository) on DVD
There's too many to fit on one DVD, and putting them across several DVDs doesn't get around the problem of holding onto stale files.
Other things to consider: Does your ISP offer file downloading from themselves at a reduced cost? Is there a computer shop near, or one that you don't mind using over the net, you that you can buy burnt Fedora discs? Is there a local Linux group that you can take a PC to for an install session?
Richard Hughes wrote, On 11/14/2008 08:52 AM:
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 13:41 +0000, Croombe F. Pensom wrote:
I wonder if anyone else has had similar troubles. My main objection is that, to use Add/Remove Software F9 always goes onto the web for a mirror and this chews up connect time (for which I am charged through the nose after a certain limit has been passed).
Right. It wants to show you the latest versions of everything. Fedora is a fast moving distro.
Does anyone know if it is possible to get ALL Fedora applications etc. (i.e. a complete repository) on DVD thus obviating the need to consume connect time?
You'll be downloading about 80Gb of data, that almost instantly will become stale.
That is a little inflated, if what Croombe actually means is he wants everything for only his arch.
The following numbers are a bit small, because I do not mirror the debug packages: 13G releases/9/Everything/i386/ 3.3M updates/9/i386 7.6G updates/9/i386.newkey 21G total
however ~3.2GB of the Everything can be gotten from the install ISO.
What Croombe is looking for is a local mirror of the repositories, having the Everything would solve most of the issues, and you could rely on the net for updates versions, or you could mirror both with the understanding that you will be pulling updates for many things that you might never install.
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/ there are 5 sites in CA, when I looked.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_make_...
They only talk about using rsync (which works well), but some folks have to work inside networks where the policies do not allow rsync, so I use wget to do my pulls.