I'm running gnome on F35. When I play a movie, I can see people talking, but cannot hear them talking. The sound icon on both gnome and on the movie players (plural) indicate I have sound. Technically I have sound. I have the 60-cycle hum that is the reason I rarely use this computer when I want sound. It is also the reason that I do not know when the problem started.
How do I figure out how to fix this? I've had sound issues before. It was always a mighty struggle.
$ lspci | grep udio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) $
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I'm running gnome on F35. When I play a movie, I can see people talking, but cannot hear them talking. The sound icon on both gnome and on the movie players (plural) indicate I have sound. Technically I have sound. I have the 60-cycle hum that is the reason I rarely use this computer when I want sound. It is also the reason that I do not know when the problem started.
How do I figure out how to fix this? I've had sound issues before. It was always a mighty struggle.
$ lspci | grep udio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) $
ennebry@mail:~$ systemctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber Unit pipewire.service could not be found. Unit pipewire-pulse.service could not be found. Unit wireplumber.service could not be found. hennebry@mail:~$ lnxi -MA -bash: lnxi: command not found hennebry@mail:~$
$ yum list installed alsa-sof-firmware Installed Packages alsa-sof-firmware.noarch 2.0-2.fc35 @updates
Above inspired by https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?327650-Fedora-35-NO-sound
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I'm running gnome on F35. When I play a movie, I can see people talking, but cannot hear them talking. The sound icon on both gnome and on the movie players (plural) indicate I have sound. Technically I have sound. I have the 60-cycle hum that is the reason I rarely use this computer when I want sound. It is also the reason that I do not know when the problem started.
How do I figure out how to fix this? I've had sound issues before. It was always a mighty struggle.
$ lspci | grep udio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) $
ennebry@mail:~$ systemctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber
Oops. Above done on wrong machine. Correct is below.
$ yum list installed alsa-sof-firmware Installed Packages alsa-sof-firmware.noarch 2.0-2.fc35 @updates
Above inspired by https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?327650-Fedora-35-NO-sound
$ systemctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber | grep -v Oct â pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service.d ââ00-uresourced.conf Active: active (running) since Tue 2022-10-25 16:27:50 CDT; 57min ago TriggeredBy: â pipewire.socket Main PID: 1605 (pipewire) Tasks: 2 (limit: 9388) Memory: 7.6M CPU: 12.633s CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pipewire.service ââ 1605 /usr/bin/pipewire
â pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2022-10-25 16:27:50 CDT; 57min ago TriggeredBy: â pipewire-pulse.socket Main PID: 1607 (pipewire-pulse) Tasks: 2 (limit: 9388) Memory: 21.4M CPU: 49.916s CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pipewire-pulse.service ââ 1607 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
â wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2022-10-25 16:27:50 CDT; 57min ago Main PID: 1606 (wireplumber) Tasks: 4 (limit: 9388) Memory: 4.2M CPU: 440ms CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/wireplumber.service ââ 1606 /usr/bin/wireplumber
$
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/25/2022 03:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Technically I have sound. I have the 60-cycle hum that is the reason I rarely use this computer when I want sound.
Try using aplay to see if you can get anything to play. If not, I'd suspect that you have a hardware issue.
The "silent" treatment postdates the hum issue. I'm not getting any sound from aplay, but do not understand why that would be indicative of a hardware issue.
On 10/25/22 15:49, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/25/2022 03:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Technically I have sound. I have the 60-cycle hum that is the reason I rarely use this computer when I want sound.
Try using aplay to see if you can get anything to play. If not, I'd suspect that you have a hardware issue.
The "silent" treatment postdates the hum issue. I'm not getting any sound from aplay, but do not understand why that would be indicative of a hardware issue.
If you're getting hum there is a good chance one of your connectors is not seated properly or a cable is no good. I used to do sound. If there is hum you solve that first. That could also explain why there is no audio.
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Mike Wright wrote:
If you're getting hum there is a good chance one of your connectors is not seated properly or a cable is no good. I used to do sound. If there is hum you solve that first. That could also explain why there is no audio.
Thanks much. 'Twas the connection to the computer. I don't get back there very much. Movies talk to me now.
I found some mp3 files that firefox will play, but aplay just generates noise. From what I've read, aplay fred.mp3 should work. I get noise. I've tried -f MPEG , but that does not work either. For me, this is mostly curiosity. This is the first I've used aplay in a rather long time.
On 10/25/2022 08:18 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
'Twas the connection to the computer. I don't get back there very much. Movies talk to me now.
On a side note, I go back a long way, and remember when most people were assuming that the issue had to be hardware, even when it was obvious (to me) that it was almost certainly software. Now, hardware is so reliable that most people never consider that it's at fault and keep trying to find a software solution that can't exist. I'm not saying that you should look at the hardware first, but don't ignore the possibility.
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 20:36 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
Now, hardware is so reliable that most people never consider that it's at fault and keep trying to find a software solution that can't exist. I'm not saying that you should look at the hardware first, but don't ignore the possibility.
I'd always suspect the 3.5 mm connectors, they're extremely unreliable (which isn't helped by the poor adherence to making them the correct dimensions).
These days I like HDMI monitors with built-in speakers, less mess on the desk that way. Of course most don't sound good, but they're okay for listening to someone speak. If I want good music, I'll plug in headphones or switch on ye olde stereo system.
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 20:36:13 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote:
I'm not saying that you should look at the hardware first, but don't ignore the possibility.
The algorithm I always try to employ (though I often forget :-) is "check the dumb stuff first". Don't go downloading the source to try to find the bug till you've made sure it is plugged in for example.
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 21:18 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
From what I've read, aplay fred.mp3 should work. I get noise.
On the chance that you don't have mp3 support, try an ogg or wav file.
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:07:27 +1030 Tim via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 21:18 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
From what I've read, aplay fred.mp3 should work. I get noise.
On the chance that you don't have mp3 support, try an ogg or wav file.
It has to be one of the following formats, from man aplay.
-t, --file-type TYPE File type (voc, wav, raw or au). If this parameter is omitted the WAVE format is used.
These days, that pretty much means wav. It might be possible to use sox to translate another format on the fly and feed it to aplay, though I haven't tried it.
Tim:
On the chance that you don't have mp3 support, try an ogg or wav file.
stan:
It has to be one of the following formats, from man aplay.
-t, --file-type TYPE File type (voc, wav, raw or au). If this parameter is omitted the WAVE format is used.
These days, that pretty much means wav.
Considering that it tried playing their mp3 (badly) instead of aborting on an unknown file type. I wonder if aplay presumes raw if doesn't find header info for the few formats that it does understand?
I just tried "aplay"-ing the output of dmesg, it looks like it does:
[tim@fluffy ~]$ aplay dmesg.text Playing raw data 'dmesg.text' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
It sounded like my old 33k modem trying to connect up. ;-) I'm going to keep that file around, now, if I ever want to prank someone.
On 10/26/2022 10:52 AM, Tim via users wrote:
[tim@fluffy ~]$ aplay dmesg.text Playing raw data 'dmesg.text' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
It sounded like my old 33k modem trying to connect up. ;-) I'm going to keep that file around, now, if I ever want to prank someone.
Note that you don't have to use a .txt extension for that file. You can always create dmesg.mp3 and see what happens. I sense great possibilities for 04/01/23!
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 11:19 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
Note that you don't have to use a .txt extension for that file.
I know. I started off personal computing on Amigas, where filename suffixes weren't part of the file type determination. Other than raw plain text, every file had identifiers in their header. But it is a handy thing for *me* when doing a directory listing to quickly see what something is, or to wildcard filter the listing to find something.
And I tend to use full words, like .text and .jpeg, because I was never held captive by the stupid three letter suffix limitations of various Mickysoft OSs.
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Thanks much. 'Twas the connection to the computer. I don't get back there very much. Movies talk to me now.
I get some hum even when the speakers are not connected to the computer. That is clearly not the software. When actually playing a movie, it's not very noticeable if there is any other sound.
On 10/25/2022 04:49 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
but do not understand why that would be indicative of a hardware issue.
I suggested using aplay because it's a very basic program and doesn't try to do anything fancy. I figured that if it couldn't manage to produce sound, there was a good chance that it's hardware.