Just out of curiosity: if package B depends on A, shown by the that removing A removes B, too, how come that after removing both, B can be installed without installing A? Here's what happened:
# dnf erase kernel-debug-* Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Removing: kernel-debug-core x86_64 5.10.8-100.fc32 @updates 77 M kernel-debug-core x86_64 5.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 77 M kernel-debug-core x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 77 M kernel-debug-modules x86_64 5.10.8-100.fc32 @updates 31 M kernel-debug-modules x86_64 5.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 31 M kernel-debug-modules x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 31 M kernel-debug-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.8-100.fc32 @updates 2.0 M kernel-debug-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 2.0 M kernel-debug-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 2.0 M Removing dependent packages: NetworkManager-l2tp x86_64 1.8.2-1.fc32 @fedora 579 k Removing unused dependencies: ldns x86_64 1.7.0-29.fc32 @fedora 425 k libreswan x86_64 4.2-1.fc32 @updates 4.3 M nss-tools x86_64 3.60.1-1.fc32 @updates 2.3 M xl2tpd x86_64 1.3.14-2.fc32 @fedora 205 k
Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Remove 14 Packages
Freed space: 335 M Is this ok [y/N]: y
[...] dnf install NetworkManager-l2tp Last metadata expiration check: 1:08:42 ago on Mon 01 Mar 2021 12:48:36 PM CET. Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Installing: NetworkManager-l2tp x86_64 1.8.2-1.fc32 fedora 174 k Installing dependencies: kernel-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 updates 2.0 M ldns x86_64 1.7.0-29.fc32 fedora 165 k nss-tools x86_64 3.60.1-1.fc32 updates 529 k xl2tpd x86_64 1.3.14-2.fc32 fedora 95 k Installing weak dependencies: libreswan x86_64 4.2-1.fc32 updates 1.2 M
Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Install 6 Packages
Total download size: 4.1 M Installed size: 9.8 M Is this ok [y/N]: y
Andras
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:18 AM Andras Simon szajmi@gmail.com wrote:
Just out of curiosity: if package B depends on A, shown by the that removing A removes B, too, how come that after removing both, B can be installed without installing A? Here's what happened:
# dnf erase kernel-debug-* Dependencies resolved.
================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================================================ Removing: kernel-debug-core x86_64 5.10.8-100.fc32 @updates 77 M kernel-debug-core x86_64 5.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 77 M kernel-debug-core x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 77 M kernel-debug-modules x86_64 5.10.8-100.fc32 @updates 31 M kernel-debug-modules x86_64 5.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 31 M kernel-debug-modules x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 31 M kernel-debug-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.8-100.fc32 @updates 2.0 M kernel-debug-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 2.0 M kernel-debug-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 2.0 M Removing dependent packages: NetworkManager-l2tp x86_64 1.8.2-1.fc32 @fedora 579 k Removing unused dependencies: ldns x86_64 1.7.0-29.fc32 @fedora 425 k libreswan x86_64 4.2-1.fc32 @updates 4.3 M nss-tools x86_64 3.60.1-1.fc32 @updates 2.3 M xl2tpd x86_64 1.3.14-2.fc32 @fedora 205 k
Transaction Summary
================================================================================ Remove 14 Packages
Freed space: 335 M Is this ok [y/N]: y
[...] dnf install NetworkManager-l2tp Last metadata expiration check: 1:08:42 ago on Mon 01 Mar 2021 12:48:36 PM CET. Dependencies resolved.
================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================================================ Installing: NetworkManager-l2tp x86_64 1.8.2-1.fc32 fedora 174 k Installing dependencies: kernel-modules-extra x86_64 5.10.18-100.fc32 updates 2.0 M ldns x86_64 1.7.0-29.fc32 fedora 165 k nss-tools x86_64 3.60.1-1.fc32 updates 529 k xl2tpd x86_64 1.3.14-2.fc32 fedora 95 k Installing weak dependencies: libreswan x86_64 4.2-1.fc32 updates 1.2 M
Transaction Summary
================================================================================ Install 6 Packages
Total download size: 4.1 M Installed size: 9.8 M Is this ok [y/N]: y
The NetworkManager-l2tp package depends on xl2tpd, which depends on kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).
$ dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)' kernel-debug-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64 kernel-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
When you removed kernel-debug-modules-extra, your system did not have kernel-modules-extra installed, leaving it with no packages providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko). Therefore, xl2tpd had to be removed, which in turn required the removal of NetworkManager-l2tp.
When you reinstalled NetworkManager-l2tp, its dependency on xl2tpd required something providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko) to be installed. Of the two packages that provide kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko), kernel-modules-extra has the shorter name, so it was installed to satisfy the dependency. (Yum, at least, used the "shorter name" rule. I'm just guessing that dnf does likewise.)
2021-03-01 16:22 UTC+01:00, Jerry James loganjerry@gmail.com:
The NetworkManager-l2tp package depends on xl2tpd, which depends on kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).
$ dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)' kernel-debug-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64 kernel-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
When you removed kernel-debug-modules-extra, your system did not have kernel-modules-extra installed, leaving it with no packages providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko). Therefore, xl2tpd had to be removed, which in turn required the removal of NetworkManager-l2tp.
When you reinstalled NetworkManager-l2tp, its dependency on xl2tpd required something providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko) to be installed. Of the two packages that provide kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko), kernel-modules-extra has the shorter name, so it was installed to satisfy the dependency. (Yum, at least, used the "shorter name" rule. I'm just guessing that dnf does likewise.)
I missed 'kernel-modules-extra' among the packages that were installed. Thanks!
Andras
On 3/1/21 7:31 AM, Andras Simon wrote:
2021-03-01 16:22 UTC+01:00, Jerry James loganjerry@gmail.com:
The NetworkManager-l2tp package depends on xl2tpd, which depends on kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).
$ dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)' kernel-debug-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64 kernel-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
When you removed kernel-debug-modules-extra, your system did not have kernel-modules-extra installed, leaving it with no packages providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko). Therefore, xl2tpd had to be removed, which in turn required the removal of NetworkManager-l2tp.
When you reinstalled NetworkManager-l2tp, its dependency on xl2tpd required something providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko) to be installed. Of the two packages that provide kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko), kernel-modules-extra has the shorter name, so it was installed to satisfy the dependency. (Yum, at least, used the "shorter name" rule. I'm just guessing that dnf does likewise.)
I missed 'kernel-modules-extra' among the packages that were installed. Thanks!
Yes, that was an annoying bug from a while back. The debug packages got pulled in instead of the non-debug one.
2021-03-01 20:47 UTC+01:00, Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net:
I missed 'kernel-modules-extra' among the packages that were installed. Thanks!
Yes, that was an annoying bug from a while back. The debug packages got pulled in instead of the non-debug one.
I was wondering how and why all those debug packages got installed. Thanks!
Andras
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