I am going to be chairing a Task Group in IEEE 802 (802.15.9) starting next month. Hopefully someone else will volunteer to be the editor, and proposals and presentations are done in .doc and .ppt so I have been using Oo.
But now I will need to produce and edit PDFs. All diagrams MUST be in Visio format (IEEE requirement). 802.11 requires use of Framemaker (fortunately, though this is 802.15 and they are not so locked in. yet).
So I am looking for some decent pdf and visio tools to use on my new f16 system. And I am quite the basic typer/drawer.
A little bit different writing requirement than has been posted here in the past day+.
But now I will need to produce and edit PDFs. All diagrams MUST be in
You can't meaningfully edit a PDF - its a print format. It's really output not input (except maybe to things like printers). Openoffice happily generates pdf documents, it's quite good at it in fact.
Visio format (IEEE requirement). 802.11 requires use of Framemaker (fortunately, though this is 802.15 and they are not so locked in. yet).
Visio has two formats it generally uses. VDX is the newer 'XML' format and Dia can import and export VDX files.
So I am looking for some decent pdf and visio tools to use on my new f16 system. And I am quite the basic typer/drawer.
Alan
On 12/11/2011 09:01 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
But now I will need to produce and edit PDFs. All diagrams MUST be in
You can't meaningfully edit a PDF - its a print format. It's really output not input (except maybe to things like printers). Openoffice happily generates pdf documents, it's quite good at it in fact.
For example, the IEEE online PAR generator puts out the PAR as PDF, but you always need to make some changes to it, so you have to edit that PDF then upload the edited PDF to the document server.
Visio format (IEEE requirement). 802.11 requires use of Framemaker (fortunately, though this is 802.15 and they are not so locked in. yet).
Visio has two formats it generally uses. VDX is the newer 'XML' format and Dia can import and export VDX files.
So I am looking for some decent pdf and visio tools to use on my new f16 system. And I am quite the basic typer/drawer.
Alan
On 12/11/2011 10:59 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
For example, the IEEE online PAR generator puts out the PAR as PDF, but you always need to make some changes to it, so you have to edit that PDF then upload the edited PDF to the document server.
I'm not saying that it is the best solution.... But with Open/LIbreOffice there is an import pdf function. I have used that to make minor changes to a PDF document and then saved it as a PDF document. Just something to consider if the need isn't extensive editing.
On 12/11/2011 09:01 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
But now I will need to produce and edit PDFs. All diagrams MUST be in
You can't meaningfully edit a PDF - its a print format. It's really output not input (except maybe to things like printers). Openoffice happily generates pdf documents, it's quite good at it in fact.
Can Oo import PDFs? Can it merge multiple PDFs into one?
Visio format (IEEE requirement). 802.11 requires use of Framemaker (fortunately, though this is 802.15 and they are not so locked in. yet).
Visio has two formats it generally uses. VDX is the newer 'XML' format and Dia can import and export VDX files.
I will check to see what format IEEE requires. What is Dia?
So I am looking for some decent pdf and visio tools to use on my new f16 system. And I am quite the basic typer/drawer.
Alan
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Can Oo import PDFs? Can it merge multiple PDFs into one?
Yes it can import PDFs as long as you install the PDF Import Extension from Oracle.
I've not tried to merge multiple PDFs.
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Can Oo import PDFs? Can it merge multiple PDFs into one?
Forgot the link to the extension page....
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport
Note, there are limitations....
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
What is Dia?
yum info dia yields
Description : The Dia drawing program can be used to draw different types of diagrams, : and includes support for UML static structure diagrams (class diagrams), : entity relationship modeling, and network diagrams. Dia can load and : save diagrams to a custom file format, can load and save in .xml format, : and can export to PostScript(TM).
On and F15 system.....
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Can Oo import PDFs? Can it merge multiple PDFs into one?
Yes it can import PDFs as long as you install the PDF Import Extension from Oracle.
I've not tried to merge multiple PDFs.
Couple of tricks I've used using the command line tools: a) https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8229-putting-together-pdf-f... b) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8070731/combining-pdf-with-ghostscript-us...
and extensive use of Xournal (yum install xournal) for "editing" PDFs.
Harish
On 12/11/2011 11:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
What is Dia?
yum info dia yields
Description : The Dia drawing program can be used to draw different types of diagrams, : and includes support for UML static structure diagrams (class diagrams), : entity relationship modeling, and network diagrams. Dia can load and : save diagrams to a custom file format, can load and save in .xml format, : and can export to PostScript(TM).
On and F15 system.....
Oh... the project's home page is... http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
Much forgetting tonight....a sake party...
On 12/11/2011 10:15 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/11/2011 10:59 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
For example, the IEEE online PAR generator puts out the PAR as PDF, but you always need to make some changes to it, so you have to edit that PDF then upload the edited PDF to the document server.
I'm not saying that it is the best solution.... But with Open/LIbreOffice there is an import pdf function. I have used that to make minor changes to a PDF document and then saved it as a PDF document. Just something to consider if the need isn't extensive editing.
Typically not. I will give it a try. Things like fixing misspeels.
On 12/11/2011 10:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Can Oo import PDFs? Can it merge multiple PDFs into one?
Yes it can import PDFs as long as you install the PDF Import Extension from Oracle.
Where is that? In one of the repos?
I've not tried to merge multiple PDFs.
On 12/11/2011 10:27 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/11/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Can Oo import PDFs? Can it merge multiple PDFs into one?
Forgot the link to the extension page....
Having problems loading the page. It says it is too busy...
Note, there are limitations....