Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
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not here. Rawhide is still enabled and fedora repo disabled
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Thanks,
D.
2008/11/12 Antonio M antonio.montagnani@gmail.com:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
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not here. Rawhide is still enabled and fedora repo disabled
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2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Thanks,
D.
2008/11/12 Antonio M antonio.montagnani@gmail.com:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
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not here. Rawhide is still enabled and fedora repo disabled
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[antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-10-1.noarch
David Hláčik wrote:
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Yes, this enables a transition to Fedora 10. Instead of pointing to rawhide repos, your repos will be pointing to Fedora 10 location and mirror manager will automatically redirect you to the updates leading to Fedora 10 eventually.
This helps the users who have been using the rawhide/test releases to smoothly update to Fedora 10 without them having to manage the repositories manually.
Rahul
2008/11/12 Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org:
David Hláčik wrote:
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Yes, this enables a transition to Fedora 10. Instead of pointing to rawhide repos, your repos will be pointing to Fedora 10 location and mirror manager will automatically redirect you to the updates leading to Fedora 10 eventually.
This helps the users who have been using the rawhide/test releases to smoothly update to Fedora 10 without them having to manage the repositories manually.
Rahul
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Rahul,
I didn't realize that I was on the fedora-list ... I am already on rawhide, does it mean that same file has different output if on F9 and rawhide???
Antonio M wrote:
Rahul,
I didn't realize that I was on the fedora-list ... I am already on rawhide, does it mean that same file has different output if on F9 and rawhide???
Not, sure which file you are referring to. If you mean, fedora-release, yes it will be different from Fedora 9 to rawhide.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I am already on rawhide, does it mean that same file has different output if on F9 and rawhide???
Not, sure which file you are referring to. If you mean, fedora-release, yes it will be different from Fedora 9 to rawhide.
I have -------------------------------------- [tim@mary ~]$ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-9.93-1.noarch -------------------------------------- Do I have to take some action to change this, or will it happen automatically?
I've run -------------------------------------- [tim@mary ~]$ sudo yum update Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process No Packages marked for Update --------------------------------------
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 13:09:05 +0000, Timothy Murphy tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote:
I have
[tim@mary ~]$ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-9.93-1.noarch
Do I have to take some action to change this, or will it happen automatically?
I've run
[tim@mary ~]$ sudo yum update Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process No Packages marked for Update
Probably you are hitting a mirror that hasn't got the latest updates yet. When I look at them from time to time, I see ones that don't stay very current. (If you want rawhide or updates, you want to be pulling from a mirror that updates daily and a lot don't seem to do that.)
Antonio M wrote:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Thanks,
D.
2008/11/12 Antonio M antonio.montagnani@gmail.com:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
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not here. Rawhide is still enabled and fedora repo disabled
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[antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-10-1.noarch
There is not yet a Fedora 10 distribution but only the beta Rawhide (Fedora 10). Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:24:21 -0800, Alex Makhlin makhlina@gmail.com wrote:
There is not yet a Fedora 10 distribution but only the beta Rawhide (Fedora 10). Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new
That is a bit misleading. F10 has not been released yet. There are daily rawhide builds that currently include things that are tagged appropiately (f10-final I believe). There are some packages already tagged for f10-updates (and f10-updates-candidates) and there are some packages tagged dist-f11 which will show up in rawhide builds shortly after the release of F10. There were some iso images made available after the "beta" release of f10.
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 02:24 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
Antonio M wrote:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Thanks,
D.
2008/11/12 Antonio M antonio.montagnani@gmail.com:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
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not here. Rawhide is still enabled and fedora repo disabled
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[antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-10-1.noarch
There is not yet a Fedora 10 distribution but only the beta Rawhide (Fedora 10). Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
So, does these mean that once Fedora 10 is live, and you run 'yum install preupgrade', it will upgrade, say Fedora 9 to Fedora 10.
That would be so cool. I've hated having to down load the latest DVD then installing/upgrading.
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Jeff Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 02:24 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
Antonio M wrote:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
And which fedora-release do you have ?
rpm -q fedora-release
mine is fedora-release-10-1.noarch
Is this a wanted scenario?
Thanks,
D.
2008/11/12 Antonio M antonio.montagnani@gmail.com:
2008/11/12 David Hláčik david@hlacik.eu:
Hello guys,
i noticed yesterday update of fedora-release to fedora-release-10-1.noarch . Now i've checked yum.repos.d and surprisingly, fedora-rawhide repo is disabled and fedora.repo is enabled.
Is this OK?
Regards,
D.
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not here. Rawhide is still enabled and fedora repo disabled
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[antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-10-1.noarch
There is not yet a Fedora 10 distribution but only the beta Rawhide (Fedora 10). Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
So, does these mean that once Fedora 10 is live, and you run 'yum install preupgrade', it will upgrade, say Fedora 9 to Fedora 10.
That would be so cool. I've hated having to down load the latest DVD then installing/upgrading.
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Yes, it should do just fine but we all know that a fresh install is the best install. First install the utility as root with command: yum install preupgrade Then run the utility by typing: preupgrade
Alex Makhlin wrote:
Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
Preupgrade is a good idea. Too bad its authors give security such a low priority. Personally I won't use Preupgrade until it verifies cryptographic signatures on everything it downloads.
Björn Persson
Jeff Maxwell wrote:
So, does these mean that once Fedora 10 is live, and you run 'yum install preupgrade', it will upgrade, say Fedora 9 to Fedora 10.
That would be so cool. I've hated having to down load the latest DVD then installing/upgrading.
Err, you can just run yum update to do that.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final
Rahul
Björn Persson wrote:
Alex Makhlin wrote:
Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
Preupgrade is a good idea. Too bad its authors give security such a low priority. Personally I won't use Preupgrade until it verifies cryptographic signatures on everything it downloads.
It uses yum which should handle that. You should file a RFE if you are talking about something different.
Rahul
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Jeff Maxwell wrote:
So, does these mean that once Fedora 10 is live, and you run 'yum install preupgrade', it will upgrade, say Fedora 9 to Fedora 10.
That would be so cool. I've hated having to down load the latest DVD then installing/upgrading.
Err, you can just run yum update to do that.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final
I've almost always used yum to upgrade to a new Fedora version by installing the newer fedora-release package, whether that method is approved or not; it works out okay eventually, though sometimes I have to reconcile some config file conflicts. Given I'm still on F9 and not a F10 beta or prerelease, I guess I should look into preupgrade? It sounds like the safety of a disc-based upgrade without the hassle and waste of burning a disc. How does that method alert you to config file and other package conflicts, by the way? Do I need to look for new .rpmnew files or something?
Thanks, reid
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Björn Persson wrote:
Preupgrade is a good idea. Too bad its authors give security such a low priority. Personally I won't use Preupgrade until it verifies cryptographic signatures on everything it downloads.
It uses yum which should handle that. You should file a RFE if you are talking about something different.
Implementing these would be a start:
https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/ticket/7 https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/ticket/8
When I see those tickets closed I'll review Preupgade again to see if there's more to do to make it secure.
Björn Persson
Alex Makhlin wrote:
There is not yet a Fedora 10 distribution but only the beta Rawhide (Fedora 10). Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
I've read this thread, but still don't understand exactly what preupgrade does. How does it differ at present from "yum update" which seems to change /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)"?
On Thu November 13 2008 7:03:48 am Timothy Murphy wrote:
I've read this thread, but still don't understand exactly what preupgrade does. How does it differ at present from "yum update" which seems to change /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)"?
a google of 'fedora preupgrade' yielded the following first hit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade
Hi all,
I removed packagekit because it kept popping up errors on my screen (I know, I should have tried to fix that instead!) But anyway, I have now reinstalled it. However, it is not part of the Administration menu any more, nor does it pop up alerts when there are updates available. I have switched back to yum for now, but I am curious as to whether there is a way I can get this to work the way it used to. Please help.
Thank you.
Ajit
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 12:03 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Alex Makhlin wrote:
There is not yet a Fedora 10 distribution but only the beta Rawhide (Fedora 10). Here is a great utility I found to upgrade Fedora when new releases are available. You will first have to install it.
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
I've read this thread, but still don't understand exactly what preupgrade does. How does it differ at present from "yum update" which seems to change /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)"?
As I understand it, preupgrade analyzes your RPM database and downloads the packages you're going to need in order to upgrade to the next version. It doesn't install anything. The idea is to save you time when you actually do the upgrade. Think of it as a prefetch.
poc
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 05:40 -0800, Ajit Warrier wrote:
I removed packagekit because it kept popping up errors on my screen (I know, I should have tried to fix that instead!)
You want to try PackageKit in updates-testing. It's much never than 0.2.x. Also, you need to file bugs if you want something fixed.
But anyway, I have now reinstalled it. However, it is not part of the Administration menu any more, nor does it pop up alerts when there are updates available. I have switched back to yum for now, but I am curious as to whether there is a way I can get this to work the way it used to. Please help.
That menu item is provided by gnome-packagekit, which depends on PackageKit.
If I were you, I would enable updates-testing, and install PackageKit and gnome-packagekit and try it out again.
Richard.
----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Hughes hughsient@gmail.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:26:19 AM Subject: Re: How to add packagekit to the Administration menu
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 05:40 -0800, Ajit Warrier wrote:
I removed packagekit because it kept popping up errors on my screen (I know, I should have tried to fix that instead!)
You want to try PackageKit in updates-testing. It's much never than 0.2.x. Also, you need to file bugs if you want something fixed.
But anyway, I have now reinstalled it. However, it is not part of the Administration menu any more, nor does it pop up alerts when there are updates available. I have switched back to yum for now, but I am curious as to whether there is a way I can get this to work the way it used to. Please help.
That menu item is provided by gnome-packagekit, which depends on PackageKit.
If I were you, I would enable updates-testing, and install PackageKit and gnome-packagekit and try it out again.
Richard.
Claude Jones wrote:
I've read this thread, but still don't understand exactly what preupgrade does. How does it differ at present from "yum update" which seems to change /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)"?
a google of 'fedora preupgrade' yielded the following first hit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade
Where exactly does that document answer my query above?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
as root type: yum install preupgrade preupgrade
I've read this thread, but still don't understand exactly what preupgrade does. How does it differ at present from "yum update" which seems to change /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)"?
As I understand it, preupgrade analyzes your RPM database and downloads the packages you're going to need in order to upgrade to the next version. It doesn't install anything. The idea is to save you time when you actually do the upgrade. Think of it as a prefetch.
I'm still not clear if preupgrade is actually relevant in my case. I'm running F10-Snap3-i686-Live-KDE (updated). An update today changed /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)". As far as I can see, this automatically makes any changes necessary to upgrade to Fedora-10, so it is not clear to me what more preupgrade would do.
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Claude Jones wrote:
I've read this thread, but still don't understand exactly what preupgrade does. How does it differ at present from "yum update" which seems to change /etc/fedora-release to "Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)"?
a google of 'fedora preupgrade' yielded the following first hit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade
Where exactly does that document answer my query above?
It does and others have provided you the answer you are asking for as well. If you have specific questions, you should ask that instead since it is not clear what you haven't understood.
To summarize:
Simply running yum update/upgrade on a system won't take you to the next release. You need to download fedora-release for the release you want to upgrade to or change your repositories manually and run yum update. This usually works but it isn't a "supported" option.
Preupgrade provides a solution that looks overall very similar to a live upgrade. It downloads the all the package updates from the release you want to upgrade to (you can continue using your system meanwhile) and changes grub to boot Anaconda and Anaconda uses the packages downloaded by preupgrade to upgrade your system. Preupgrade unlike upgrades via yum is more of a supported option.
Rahul
Timothy Murphy wrote:
I'm still not clear if preupgrade is actually relevant in my case.
It isn't. It is only relevant for users upgrading from *another release*. You are already using rawhide and will automatically get updated to Fedora 10 so preupgrade isn't necessary or relevant in your case.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final
Rahul
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:25:51 +0530 Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Preupgrade provides a solution that looks overall very similar to a live upgrade. It downloads the all the package updates from the release you want to upgrade to (you can continue using your system meanwhile) and changes grub to boot Anaconda and Anaconda uses the packages downloaded by preupgrade to upgrade your system. Preupgrade unlike upgrades via yum is more of a supported option.
How does preupgrade interact with rpmfusion? Or does it?
On 14.11.2008 09:21, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:25:51 +0530 Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Preupgrade provides a solution that looks overall very similar to a live upgrade. It downloads the all the package updates from the release you want to upgrade to (you can continue using your system meanwhile) and changes grub to boot Anaconda and Anaconda uses the packages downloaded by preupgrade to upgrade your system. Preupgrade unlike upgrades via yum is more of a supported option.
How does preupgrade interact with rpmfusion? Or does it?
I never tried.
Somebody should try and report the results.
But RPM Fusion provides everything that is needed for a proper upgrade in it's repos. The release-files are also build in a way to make sure that you use the F-10 repos automatically as soon as you upgrade fedora-release to the one from F-10 (but that will likely only work properly when F-10 is out or once we did some changes to our MirrorManager).
IOW: Everything should work if preupgrade does everything right. And I suppose it will, but I'm not sure.
CU knurd
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:27:12 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis fedora@leemhuis.info wrote:
Somebody should try and report the results.
I just tried it. I just now updated one of my computers from F8 to F9 using preupgrade. It had (has) rpmfusion-free and rpmfusion-nonfree installed, along with several rpms from there.
And the rpmfusion stuff (mplayer and the like) updated transparently and automatically along with everything else.
So the answer to my initial question, "How does preupgrade interact with rpmfusion?" is "perfectly".
rpmfusion is not a problem or an issue when using preupgrade. It all "just works".