HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
---- yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Craig
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
yum install openoffice.org-draw
IIRC my OOo install is 2.3.0 from OOo, not the repos.
skip the morning caffeine?
Or have some more, neither of which would help my 11 left thumbs ability to draw, which has not measurably improved in 73 years. I can write gcode to carve usefull metal pieces, but that's about it.
Craig
Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New > Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should be /usr/bin/oodraw.
<Joe
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the install from the applications - add/remove software already.
Regards, Les H
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New > Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should be /usr/bin/oodraw.
Thanks, Joe, This is the piece I was missing. I'll set that up now. The drawing was a ".png" file and I don't remember how I saved it that way, but that was done to allow me to put it on a server for a web application in HTML. Anyway, with your tip I should be able to get back to basics. For what it is worth, I downloaded the image from my web app, then converted it and then edited it, cropped it and reinstalled it. Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
Regards, Les H
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:32 -0800, Les wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the install from the applications - add/remove software already.
---- The yum install openoffice.org-draw was to satisfy Gene's diversion, which he trumped with the notion that he installed the OOo rpm's, discussion of which makes his commentary 100% irrelevant but what the hey.
I haven't used openoffice.org-draw very much but haven't had the experience you found but I got the impression that the suggestions made by Joe Smith are more to your solving your issue. Lately I've been using inkscape.
If you do did figure out what happened, can certify that it's a repeatable problem, you should probably add it to bugzilla.
Craig
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:37 -0800, Les wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New > Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should be /usr/bin/oodraw.
Thanks, Joe, This is the piece I was missing. I'll set that up now. The drawing was a ".png" file and I don't remember how I saved it that way, but that was done to allow me to put it on a server for a web application in HTML. Anyway, with your tip I should be able to get back to basics. For what it is worth, I downloaded the image from my web app, then converted it and then edited it, cropped it and reinstalled it. Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
---- PNG is very native format for Gimp. I am not certain why you would want to move beyond there.
Craig
Les wrote:
... Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
If you want nice web graphics, Inkscape is the right way to go: it's superior in quality, capability and usability over Draw.
The only areas where Draw has something of an edge is a) it's a bit easier to get started with and b) it plays well with the other OOo apps.
I find Draw adequate for simple technical illustrations; Inkscape is a lot more artistically powerful.
If you want to post a link to what you're working on, we might be able to make some specific suggestions.
<Joe
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:32 -0800, Les wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the install from the applications - add/remove software already.
The yum install openoffice.org-draw was to satisfy Gene's diversion, which he trumped with the notion that he installed the OOo rpm's, discussion of which makes his commentary 100% irrelevant but what the hey.
What I was saying is that it is also missing from the OOo-2.3.0 release from OpenOffice.org. If they are no longer maintaining it, then it stands to reason that the fedora rpms might not have it if and when they get to the 2.3.0 stage.
I haven't used openoffice.org-draw very much but haven't had the experience you found but I got the impression that the suggestions made by Joe Smith are more to your solving your issue. Lately I've been using inkscape.
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
If you do did figure out what happened, can certify that it's a repeatable problem, you should probably add it to bugzilla.
Craig
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Gene Heskett wrote:
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
inkspace.org does not mention this anywhere.
The FAQ at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_License_is_Inkscape_release... claims it is under GPL 2.0.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 18:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:32 -0800, Les wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
yum install openoffice.org-draw
skip the morning caffeine?
Will yum install something different than the updated RPM's? I did the install from the applications - add/remove software already.
The yum install openoffice.org-draw was to satisfy Gene's diversion, which he trumped with the notion that he installed the OOo rpm's, discussion of which makes his commentary 100% irrelevant but what the hey.
What I was saying is that it is also missing from the OOo-2.3.0 release from OpenOffice.org. If they are no longer maintaining it, then it stands to reason that the fedora rpms might not have it if and when they get to the 2.3.0 stage.
---- openoffice.org-draw isn't missing from fedora packages, it's just packaged separately. I don't know what the packaging looks like from OOo. Since OP and I don't use OOo's packages, it isn't germane to the discussion. OP stated he was able to uninstall/install openoffice.org-draw...subject closed. ----
I haven't used openoffice.org-draw very much but haven't had the experience you found but I got the impression that the suggestions made by Joe Smith are more to your solving your issue. Lately I've been using inkscape.
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd.
---- link ? diversion ?
I thought I would have heard about that since Ted Gould is a member of the Phoenix Linux Users Group. ----
Lambasted them I believe was the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
---- It's hard to use object oriented graphics when you live in a bit-mapped world.
Craig
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was
You're thinking of Xara, another vector drawing package. Inkscape is Free as in Fedora.
-Andy
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, alan wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Gene Heskett wrote:
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was the terminology used. I had it installed for a while and what it did, it did very well, but in my case, printer formatting was at best, broken.
inkspace.org does not mention this anywhere.
The FAQ at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_License_is_Inkscape_release d_under.3F claims it is under GPL 2.0.
Humm, maybe I should have checked that against snopes. It was on one of those wannabe linux sites that more often than not seems to find the M$ product somehow better.
However, I don't think you can deny that its development seems to have approached call a surveyor and set stakes to measure its speed recently.
Its printer output isn't very good IMO, but that may go back to fedora's theory that brokenness is expected since its fedora. I dunno, but my locally built copy of gutenprint is pinned cuz nothing in the fedora repo seems to want to admit gutenprint even exists, staying instead with the thouroughly broken for epson printers gimp-print-4.2.7 that is now 3 or 4 years out of support. But we've had this discussion quite heatedly before without resolving the issue so I came to the conclusion this is fedora policy. Its a shrug, as long as I can fix it. And I have for gimp, the important app here.
-- Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas? A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Andy Green wrote:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
There was, IIRC fairly recently, and article I read someplace because Inkscape had been taken back private, no longer gpl'd. Lambasted them I believe was
You're thinking of Xara, another vector drawing package. Inkscape is Free as in Fedora.
-Andy
Damn the CRS syndrome, I do believe you are correct. With the impending death of a daughter in the next days, too much on my mind and plate to think straight. A man isn't supposed to outlive as many of his children as I seem to be doing.
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
... Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
If you want nice web graphics, Inkscape is the right way to go: it's superior in quality, capability and usability over Draw.
The only areas where Draw has something of an edge is a) it's a bit easier to get started with and b) it plays well with the other OOo apps.
I find Draw adequate for simple technical illustrations; Inkscape is a lot more artistically powerful.
If you want to post a link to what you're working on, we might be able to make some specific suggestions.
<Joe
As a subscript to all this, it turns out that draw is in the 2.3.0 version, but an entry in the kmenu wasn't made. That you can fix, and I also found a sort of a CAD extension for it while I was moseying around on their site.
But these 'extensions' only work with the later versions according to the web page on them at OOo.org.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0.
You really have to pay attention when managing files with OOo, because it's very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. I've done it several times.
However, there is no way, as far as I know, to get that message when creating a PNG file. Are you sure that's what happened?
Draw should have saved (or prompted you to save) your work as an ODF file (e.g. "drawing.odg"). Have you checked for that? It also has a nasty habit of saving files in unexpected places. So, it's probably worth a complete search of your home directory.
Something like
$ locate *.odg
or
$ find ~ -name '*.odg'
should do it.
... Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
The Fedora 7 OOo packages don't create a desktop icon or menu item for Draw. You can start any OOo app from any other OOo app, so you can always use the menu or panel to start OOo Writer, then do File > New > Drawing, to open Draw.
If you want to create a menu or launcher for Draw, you can use the command "which oodraw" to locate the startup file, which for f7 should be /usr/bin/oodraw.
<Joe
Hi, Joe, I used the "Add to Panel" function for custom Application launcher. The program (at least as installed by default here) is /usr/lib/openoffice.org/program/sdraw.bin I named it "Draw" and used the icon "Tomboy.png" which resembles a pencil on a pad of post-its.
That should do the trick for me and anyone else who wants it.
Thanks for your help.
Les H
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:08 -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Les wrote:
... Took three applications, Gimp, draw, and snapshot to get what I wanted. And then the modifications don't quite match the original, but at least it is technically correct which is the most important thing for logical diagrams.
I think I need to find an easier way.
If you want nice web graphics, Inkscape is the right way to go: it's superior in quality, capability and usability over Draw.
The only areas where Draw has something of an edge is a) it's a bit easier to get started with and b) it plays well with the other OOo apps.
I find Draw adequate for simple technical illustrations; Inkscape is a lot more artistically powerful.
If you want to post a link to what you're working on, we might be able to make some specific suggestions.
<Joe
All I do is simple technical illustrations for my work. I am learning some 3d stuff from Blender, Second Life, and Croquet because I need that for the later rounds. I think Draw will do me just fine.
And I am too embarassed by the quality and character of what I do while it is in progress to let others see it. Maybe later?
Regards, Les H
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 10:17 -0800, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Les, I just checked my machine using: rpm -qa |grep openoffice and got this: openoffice.org-draw-2.2.0-14.8 Hope this helps! Ric
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 06 November 2007, Les wrote:
HI, everyone, I had a drawing I created in OO draw, and wanted to edit it. I opened it, made the changes, then saved it. I was talking to my wife during this process, and a message window came up saying that some bits might not be saved in the PNG format. I clicked OK, and closed the application after the save. Later I came back to work on it, and the drawing had a size of 0. It was gone. Now, I'm no artist, so it takes me a long time to generate a drawing I can use for something, on the order of days. In this case I lost a week or so's work. So I thought, maybe OO draw saved a temp version. I thought I can just open OO draw and maybe recapture the whole thing. However I cannot find Open Office draw either. I have Calendar, Dia diagram editor, Invest Chart, J-Pilot, Presentation, Project Management, Spreadsheet, Tasks, and Word Processing under the Office menue of Applications. I already tried removing and re-installing Open Office Draw using the Applications-add/remove software tool, but no joy.
I am sure I have a copy on my backup, so I can recover the drawing, but what gives with Open Office Draw? Am I the only one with this problem? Where would I invoke OO draw directly?
Regards, Les H
If its any consolation Les, I just checked my kmenu display and draw is indeed missing. I didn't notice cuz I'm even less of an artist.
yum install openoffice.org-draw
It's installed on my machine, but not in the menu. Ric