I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a "selection box". If you do it over items that show up on your desktop, each will be selected.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:39:03 -0700 Richard England rlengland@verizon.net wrote:
It is a "selection box". If you do it over items that show up on your desktop, each will be selected.
Ah.... that makes a great deal of sense. Thanks for clearing up that minor mystery!
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 00:48 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric
Ric Moore wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 00:48 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric
This is a joke post right? A 'funny' post ? A 'pull my leg' post? Maybe even a 'giggle together in secret' post?
"a selection 'lasso'"?? You are all joking here right?
David Boles wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 00:48 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric
This is a joke post right? A 'funny' post ? A 'pull my leg' post? Maybe even a 'giggle together in secret' post?
"a selection 'lasso'"?? You are all joking here right?
Why would you think that? It is a very reasonable description. Would the term "grouping box" make it less of a joke?
Ed Greshko wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric
This is a joke post right? A 'funny' post ? A 'pull my leg' post? Maybe even a 'giggle together in secret' post?
"a selection 'lasso'"?? You are all joking here right?
Why would you think that? It is a very reasonable description. Would the term "grouping box" make it less of a joke?
I've never quite known how to describe or pronounce GUI actions and events, and it always seemed like if you had to read a manual it would be faster to just type the underlying command instead... A lasso seems like a reasonable description of what you are doing.
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 22:16 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 00:48 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric
This is a joke post right? A 'funny' post ? A 'pull my leg' post? Maybe even a 'giggle together in secret' post?
"a selection 'lasso'"?? You are all joking here right?
Well, didja try it?? It's not so much a lasso as it is a rectangle, but the simile remains the same. Of course SOME of us don't mess with Winders :P all the time, so "lassos" are kinda a cool thing to play with when dinking with X-winders, if you've never seen such a thing. Give it a whirl! Yahoo!
Next, I'm gonna have Jethro to teach me to cipher, out by the concrete swimmin' hole. Cuzin Ric
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Ric Moore wayward4now@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 22:16 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 00:48 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold
the
button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent
box on
your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button.
What is that for, if anything at all?
It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do
to
selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should work the same way.
Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric
This is a joke post right? A 'funny' post ? A 'pull my leg' post? Maybe even a 'giggle together in secret' post?
"a selection 'lasso'"?? You are all joking here right?
Well, didja try it?? It's not so much a lasso as it is a rectangle, but the simile remains the same. Of course SOME of us don't mess with Winders :P all the time, so "lassos" are kinda a cool thing to play with when dinking with X-winders, if you've never seen such a thing. Give it a whirl! Yahoo!
Next, I'm gonna have Jethro to teach me to cipher, out by the concrete swimmin' hole. Cuzin Ric
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think there was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab multiple objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
Max
max bianco wrote:
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think there was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab multiple objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
It's not really any more intuitive than knowing all the variable and wildcard substitutions and i/o redirections the shell can do before starting each command.
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 09:25 -0400, max bianco wrote:
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think there was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab multiple objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
There was a post the other day about accidental rebooting which was obviously a joke, but it seems people didn't get it. It's hard to tell in email if you are joking (that's why we use smilies).
If you grew up using the command line like I did the desktop is more of an annoyance. A guy once looked at my screen and said, "it doesn't look like you are using a window manager at all! Is that just bare X?"
I like to right click to open up the app menu and select "terminal," but that's about it. Oh and the workspace pager obviously. And the clock.
Tom Holroyd wrote:
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 09:25 -0400, max bianco wrote:
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think there was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab multiple objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
There was a post the other day about accidental rebooting which was obviously a joke, but it seems people didn't get it. It's hard to tell in email if you are joking (that's why we use smilies).
Are you saying it is April Fools practice week? :-)
If you grew up using the command line like I did the desktop is more of an annoyance. A guy once looked at my screen and said, "it doesn't look like you are using a window manager at all! Is that just bare X?"
I like to right click to open up the app menu and select "terminal," but that's about it. Oh and the workspace pager obviously. And the clock.
Tom Holroyd wrote:
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 09:25 -0400, max bianco wrote:
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think there was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab multiple objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
There was a post the other day about accidental rebooting which was obviously a joke, but it seems people didn't get it. It's hard to tell in email if you are joking (that's why we use smilies).
If you grew up using the command line like I did the desktop is more of an annoyance. A guy once looked at my screen and said, "it doesn't look like you are using a window manager at all! Is that just bare X?"
I like to right click to open up the app menu and select "terminal," but that's about it. Oh and the workspace pager obviously. And the clock.
I like X because you can run dozens of windows at once and cut/paste among them, but mine mostly tend to be terminals too. The really annoying thing about GUIs is that there's no way to describe or repeat what you just did. On the command line, you can do some complicated set of operations, then scroll back through your command history and cut/paste it into a script file and you'll be able to repeat that set of operations as often as you want on as many machines as you want. With a GUI, you can't even tell someone else how to do what you just did and its just as hard to repeat it yourself as it was the first time.
Sun Tzu didn't have airborne laser canons.
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 22:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
-- When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard. --The Art of War by Sun Tzu Chapter VII: Maneuvering
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 09:55 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
I like X because you can run dozens of windows at once and cut/paste among them, but mine mostly tend to be terminals too. The really annoying thing about GUIs is that there's no way to describe or repeat what you just did. On the command line, you can do some complicated set of operations, then scroll back through your command history and cut/paste it into a script file and you'll be able to repeat that set of operations as often as you want on as many machines as you want. With a GUI, you can't even tell someone else how to do what you just did and its just as hard to repeat it yourself as it was the first time.
Seconded. GUIs are not scriptable. Complex primitives are good.
Dr. Tom -- There is nothing that grows more pleasingly on earth than a lofty, strong will: it is the finest growth. An entire landscape refreshes itself at one such tree. Thus spoke Zarathustra.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
max bianco wrote:
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think
there
was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab
multiple
objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
It's not really any more intuitive than knowing all the variable and wildcard substitutions and i/o redirections the shell can do before starting each command.
Right you are but its been around so long that i take it for granted. I
don't remember being impressed the first time i used it. It made sense that it should work that way and i've taken it for granted(a bad habit, taking things for granted) ever since.
Max
Right you are but its been around so long that i take it for granted. I don't remember being impressed the first time i used it. It made sense that it should work that way and i've taken it for granted(a bad habit, taking things for granted) ever since.
Yes, as indicated above, bad habit.
While you are taking things for granted you should also take for granted that the things you take for granted are probably not the same things that others take for granted for the body of knowledge you have accumulated is likely not the same body of knowledge that others have accumulated no matter how obvious it would appear to you.
Oh, and just to be clear, the word "you" above is plural. :-)
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Ed Greshko wrote:
Right you are but its been around so long that i take it for granted. I don't remember being impressed the first time i used it. It made sense that it should work that way and i've taken it for granted(a bad habit, taking things for granted) ever since.
Yes, as indicated above, bad habit.
While you are taking things for granted you should also take for granted that the things you take for granted are probably not the same things that others take for granted for the body of knowledge you have accumulated is likely not the same body of knowledge that others have accumulated no matter how obvious it would appear to you.
Oh, and just to be clear, the word "you" above is plural. :-)
As in the Walt Kelly version of plural, he is us.
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 09:25 -0400, max bianco wrote:
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Ric Moore wayward4now@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 22:16 -0400, David Boles wrote: > Ric Moore wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 00:48 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> Frank Cox wrote: > >>> I just noticed that if you left-click on your Gnome desktop, hold the > >>> button down and move the mouse, you create a little semi-transparent box on > >>> your desktop. It goes away as soon as you release the mouse button. > >>> > >>> What is that for, if anything at all? > >> It is a selection 'lasso' that should select any icons that you > >> encompass. Then you can do any of the usual things that you can do to > >> selected icons - drag, copy, delete, etc. Most other windows should > >> work the same way. > > > > Coolness! It works in KDE, too. Ric > > This is a joke post right? A 'funny' post ? A 'pull my leg' post? Maybe > even a 'giggle together in secret' post? > > "a selection 'lasso'"?? You are all joking here right? Well, didja try it?? It's not so much a lasso as it is a rectangle, but the simile remains the same. Of course SOME of us don't mess with Winders :P all the time, so "lassos" are kinda a cool thing to play with when dinking with X-winders, if you've never seen such a thing. Give it a whirl! Yahoo! Next, I'm gonna have Jethro to teach me to cipher, out by the concrete swimmin' hole. Cuzin Ric
I thought this post was a joke too. No offense but i did not think there was anyone using a computer today that didn't know you could grab multiple objects like that, i am glad everyone is so thrilled , a rare enough occurrence around here, but this is pretty basic functionality. I would never have guessed it would cause so much excitement.
That's why the quip about learning to cipher next. Heck, check out my Linux user #, it's not like I just got introduced to computers last week. But, during the infrequent sojourns into the land of konqueror, I'd hit the shift key and click on a bunch of icons to either move or copy, ya know?
I'm sure I've seen the click and drag sometime in the past, but it didn't stick into the frontal lobe as little time as I spend not using a terminal window. Evidently Frank didn't know it either, so at least I'm not alone in the issue. :) Hard core command line users can be surprised and in my case, *delighted*, to see a pet trick to play with! There's always a first time!
Be happy for me too! <drooling and grinning> Ric
Dnia 18-03-2008, wto o godzinie 11:05 -0400, Tom Holroyd pisze:
Seconded. GUIs are not scriptable. Complex primitives are good.
I disagree GUIs are scriptable. See http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/automator/ or http://live.gnome.org/Accerciser
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Dnia 18-03-2008, wto o godzinie 11:05 -0400, Tom Holroyd pisze:
Seconded. GUIs are not scriptable. Complex primitives are good.
I disagree GUIs are scriptable. See http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/automator/ or http://live.gnome.org/Accerciser
Sort-of. On the command line, scripts are the same commands as you would type naturally so there is nothing different to learn for automation and repeatability - you just put the commands in a file. GUI scripts involve some language that has nothing to do with the underlying operations.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Right you are but its been around so long that i take it for granted. I don't remember being impressed the first time i used it. It made sense that it should work that way and i've taken it for granted(a bad habit, taking things for granted) ever since.
Yes, as indicated above, bad habit.
While you are taking things for granted you should also take for granted that the things you take for granted are probably not the same things that others take for granted for the body of knowledge you have accumulated is likely not the same body of knowledge that others have accumulated no matter how obvious it would appear to you.
Oh, and just to be clear, the word "you" above is plural. :-)
Right you(singular) are!!!
Max