In in the process of upgrading from fc6 to f9, and one of the biggest aggrivations is fonts.
I wont say that they have screwed things up (tho thats the way I feel) but they have definately changed things... WHY????
When I try to run xconfig to build a new kernel, the font size is bigger, and I dont seem to be seeing the top few items in the menus. Anyone know where to change this so I dont have to go hunting?
Dito with exmh, the fonts in the table of folders are unreadable, but I know where to fix that one.
And Im running twm as a window manager. In the dropdown menu for the running processes (the icon manager) the fonts are probably twice the size that they were before. Im going t assume this can be fixed somewhere in .twmrc, but if anyone has gone thruthis and found the place, I would be appreciative i you would drop a line,- it will save me some time.
All these changes are going to make working between f9 and earlier systems a real pain,- Im going to have to think about how Im going to install the correct config files for each release...
In in the process of upgrading from fc6 to f9, and one of the biggest aggrivations is fonts.
The old nasty server based fonts are almost all left out of the default install because, after all, gnome doesn't use them, so no one could possibly have any use for them at all :-).
Check for packages in the repos named xorg-x11-font* and install lots of them and you'll probably be back to normal.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:05:09PM +0000, Tom Horsley wrote:
In in the process of upgrading from fc6 to f9, and one of the biggest aggrivations is fonts.
The old nasty server based fonts are almost all left out of the default install because, after all, gnome doesn't use them, so no one could possibly have any use for them at all :-).
Check for packages in the repos named xorg-x11-font* and install lots of them and you'll probably be back to normal.
I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?
Thanks.
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:53:03 -0500 Dave Feustel dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?
I never use the default Add/Remove software tool, but in theory you should be able to run it and do a search for xorg-x11-font and select packages from the search results to install.
I tend to use the "yumex" tool rather than the default one because it just seems more natural to me. To use it do this (as root):
yum install yumex yumex
Then in the yumex gui you can search for available packages with xorg-x11-conf in the name.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:15:49PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:53:03 -0500 Dave Feustel dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?
I never use the default Add/Remove software tool, but in theory you should be able to run it and do a search for xorg-x11-font and select packages from the search results to install.
I tend to use the "yumex" tool rather than the default one because it just seems more natural to me. To use it do this (as root):
yum install yumex yumex
Then in the yumex gui you can search for available packages with xorg-x11-conf in the name.
I tried this but got no hits for xorg-x11-conf.
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:15:49PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:53:03 -0500 Dave Feustel dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?
I never use the default Add/Remove software tool, but in theory you should be able to run it and do a search for xorg-x11-font and select packages from the search results to install.
I tend to use the "yumex" tool rather than the default one because it just seems more natural to me. To use it do this (as root):
yum install yumex yumex
Then in the yumex gui you can search for available packages with xorg-x11-conf in the name.
I tried this but got no hits for xorg-x11-conf.
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context." - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@nerd.com wrote:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@nerd.com wrote:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no font packages.
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@nerd.com wrote:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no font packages.
Interesting. I get:
[root@bigdog Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts* Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
Available Packages xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:53:10PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@nerd.com wrote:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no font packages.
Interesting. I get:
[root@bigdog Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts* Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
Available Packages xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
I get the same list of fonts running the yum command you used.
Yumex doesn't list any fonts with names beginning with xorg as far as I can tell. Yumex *did* list a lot of fonts when I specified *font*. I installed a bunch.
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:53:10PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@nerd.com wrote:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no font packages.
Interesting. I get:
[root@bigdog Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts* Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
Available Packages xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
I get the same list of fonts running the yum command you used.
Yumex doesn't list any fonts with names beginning with xorg as far as I can tell. Yumex *did* list a lot of fonts when I specified *font*. I installed a bunch.
Using yumex, I clicked on the "All" button, entered "xorg-x11-fonts*" in the search bar and clicked on the binocular icon. Ended up with the same stuff that yum showed, but the installed fonts were highlighted in green with checkmarks next to them.
Should work for you as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "More hay, Trigger?" "No thanks, Roy, I'm stuffed!" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Stevens:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Tom Horsley:
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
If you do a search for xorg-x11-font you're only going to find some of the font packages. You'd be better to search for font, and pick out the more obvious ones that you'd want going by name and description (ignoring ones for foreign languages you don't need, or for certain programs - they'll probably be tiny bitmaps).
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 15:53 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@nerd.com wrote:
Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*". There is no xorg-x11-conf stuff.
Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no font packages.
Interesting. I get:
[root@bigdog Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts*
The above works but I can't figure out why. I would think it should be: yum list xorg-x11-fonts*
In your form the * should be expanded by the shell not by yum.
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed
Available Packages xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 fedora
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