Is there a PDF editor or converter available for Fedora? Seems that OpenOffice does not yet support it at this time?
Thanks!
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:20:59 -0700 "Daniel B. Thurman" dant@cdkkt.com wrote:
Is there a PDF editor or converter available for Fedora?
yum install pdfedit
The last time I looked at pdfedit, it didn't work particularly well, though.
As to a converter, what would you like to convert your pdf to? Gimp can load a pdf and save it to other formats. So can Image Magick.
Seems that OpenOffice does not yet support it at this time?
Probably at no time. PDF is not intended to be an editable file format.
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Is there a PDF editor or converter available for Fedora? Seems that OpenOffice does not yet support it at this time?
Thanks!
pdf2ps?
followed by ps2ascii,
then vim.
not sure it would help much with embedded images, though. :)
/me heard that scribus might be able to do something with PDFs, but hasn't actually checked.
Stuart
PDF is an output format. Much like the way that a C program is compiled into an executable, a source .doc or .tex file is converted to PDF for display. You need the source code to edit. Open Source!
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 09:48 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 08:20 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Is there a PDF editor or converter available for Fedora? Seems that OpenOffice does not yet support it at this time?
edit what? convert to what?
Dr. Tom -- Since humanity came into being, man has enjoyed himself too little: that alone, my brothers, is our original sin! Thus spoke Zarathustra.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tom Holroyd tomh@kurage.nimh.nih.gov wrote:
PDF is an output format. Much like the way that a C program is compiled into an executable, a source .doc or .tex file is converted to PDF for display. You need the source code to edit. Open Source!
I don't think C is a very good analogy. All Illustrator files are PDF format these days and many programs can edit PDFs - I just haven't come across anything very good that runs on linux yet. PDFEditor looks promising, but I don't find it usable yet. If you wrote a program that followed Adobe's specs, nothing would prevent you from reading/editing/writing PDF files:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html
I generally have to convert a PDF to various formats based on what I want out of it, then recreate it in Scribus or OpenOffice if I want a new PDF. I often use this script to pull out vector data:
<snip> #!/bin/bash
# you need gs-common, pstoedit and skencil to # get this script working export BASENAME=$1
#convert to ps pdf2ps ${BASENAME} ${BASENAME}.ps
# Outline fonts eps2eps -dNOCACHE ${BASENAME}.ps ${BASENAME}-TEMP
# Fix bounding box ps2epsi ${BASENAME}-TEMP ${BASENAME}.ps rm ${BASENAME}-TEMP
# convert to svg pstoedit -f plot-svg ${BASENAME}.ps ${BASENAME}.svg rm ${BASENAME}.ps <snip>
Or I might rip the PDF in GIMP to extract the images. Sometimes I open it in Reader and copy/paste the text. Printing to file from Reader or running pdf2ps will sometimes yield a postscript document than can be imported into Inkscape - but that hasn't worked very reliably in my experience.
In the end, you *can* edit a PDF in linux, it's just often very, very painful - and I don't think that the pain is caused by anything "closed source" - the PDF spec has been available for years.
Chris
Chris Mohler wrote:
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tom Holroyd tomh@kurage.nimh.nih.gov wrote:
PDF is an output format. Much like the way that a C program is compiled into an executable, a source .doc or .tex file is converted to PDF for display. You need the source code to edit. Open Source!
I don't think C is a very good analogy. All Illustrator files are PDF format these days and many programs can edit PDFs - I just haven't come across anything very good that runs on linux yet. PDFEditor looks promising, but I don't find it usable yet. If you wrote a program that followed Adobe's specs, nothing would prevent you from reading/editing/writing PDF files:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html
I generally have to convert a PDF to various formats based on what I want out of it, then recreate it in Scribus or OpenOffice if I want a new PDF. I often use this script to pull out vector data:
<snip> #!/bin/bash
# you need gs-common, pstoedit and skencil to # get this script working export BASENAME=$1
#convert to ps pdf2ps ${BASENAME} ${BASENAME}.ps
# Outline fonts eps2eps -dNOCACHE ${BASENAME}.ps ${BASENAME}-TEMP
# Fix bounding box ps2epsi ${BASENAME}-TEMP ${BASENAME}.ps rm ${BASENAME}-TEMP
# convert to svg pstoedit -f plot-svg ${BASENAME}.ps ${BASENAME}.svg rm ${BASENAME}.ps
<snip>
Or I might rip the PDF in GIMP to extract the images. Sometimes I open it in Reader and copy/paste the text. Printing to file from Reader or running pdf2ps will sometimes yield a postscript document than can be imported into Inkscape - but that hasn't worked very reliably in my experience.
In the end, you *can* edit a PDF in linux, it's just often very, very painful - and I don't think that the pain is caused by anything "closed source" - the PDF spec has been available for years.
Chris
I just did a quick test with KWord and it opens pdfs for editing. I don't know how good it is. I understand OOo 3.0 will have pdf editing abilities.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Robin Laing Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote: [...]
I just did a quick test with KWord and it opens pdfs for editing. I don't know how good it is. I understand OOo 3.0 will have pdf editing abilities.
Thanks for the tip. It did better than anything else I've tried, but still dropped all of the vector graphics. I'll definitely keep my eye on it though.
Chris
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Is there a PDF editor or converter available for Fedora? Seems that OpenOffice does not yet support it at this time?
Thanks!
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yum install pdfedit