Message: 11 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:21:16 +0100 From: Henk Breimer acbk@zeelandnet.nl Subject: Re: dependency champion? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20081107152116.7b98ed51@pietro.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:00:02 +0100 Michael Schwendt mschwendt@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:03:20 +0100, Henk Breimer wrote:
[net@pietro ~]$ yum remove libthai
Remove 266 Package(s)
Is this ok [y/N]: no, of course. Remaining question: is this the way 'requires' should be used?
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I fully understand what caused this.
My next question would be : "what would happen if such a helper program for every small lanquage were included in the same way?"
A better solution is needed for this kind of things.
Henk
*Hi All,
Having been bitten several times by Yum's ideas of "what depends on what", I agree with Henk. If I have 2 (as far as I can see & understand) independent, stand-aloneable programs eg Cups & Firefox, it ought to be possible for me to remove either without automatically taking out the other - no, I've never even thought of the work that must go into something like that!!!!
Isn't it possible to define some sort of "connector" between user & helper programs, at a different level than say between elements which MUST be present to function?? The other day, I went to yumex to see what was waiting for update... amongst them was bluez (which I thought I'd removed back at installation time); in the thought "don't use it, don't need it, bin it", I cleared the tick on the bluez installed line, clicked process & was rewarded by a suggestion to take out about 90% of my system (again)! I cannot really imagine that "everything" DEPENDS on bluez to function!
OK, I'll go downtown & get me soapbox set up on the corner! ;-))
Cheers
Dave
PS Sorry if this comes out in overdone Bold face - I haven't found out what (un)causes some of the messages in the digests to be greyed out...... ** *
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 16:48 +0100, DB wrote:
Having been bitten several times by Yum's ideas of "what depends on what", I agree with Henk. If I have 2 (as far as I can see & understand) independent, stand-aloneable programs eg Cups & Firefox, it ought to be possible for me to remove either without automatically taking out the other - no, I've never even thought of the work that must go into something like that!!!!
As Michael pointed out, this has absolutely nothing to do with Yum. The packages were specified with certain dependencies and Yum is simply following the spec. I'm sure you're not suggesting that Yum should examine the packages and determine if X *really* depends on Y ...
BTW, if possible don't use Yahoo to reply. Its idea of message threading (not to mention quoting) seems to be completely broken.
poc