Words by R. G. Newbury [Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 11:43:57PM -0500]:
> R. G. Newbury <newbury <at> mandamus.org> writes:
>>> > >>HELP!...KDE 4 is a bloody disaster. At the moment, I have no
KDE
>>"Start"
> >
(...)
>> > >And the easiest way to downgrade is to reinstall Fedora 8 from
scratch.
>> > >Kevin Kofler
> >
> > And isn't that one HELL of an advert for stupidity too!.
> >
> > And yes, it is....thankfully I have my data separated but it still takes
a
> > chunk of time, and now I have to re-update and install a whack-o-crap...
> >
>Well, you're a bit too nervous. You installed a development version,
>guess you made a backup beforehand.
>I'll spell it out, d-e-v-e-l-o-p-m-e-n-t version.
I'm not nervous, I'm bloody mad. I did not *choose* to install a
developement version. Fedora 8 added the 'fedora-developement' repo to
yum.repos.d.
Yeah. But did you enable it?
[japc@morgoth:/etc/yum.repos.d]$ grep ^enable fedora-development.repo
enabled=0
enabled=0
enabled=0
That sis not happen in Fedora 7. THEN, Fedora 8 appears to have
automagically done a global update, although I did not ask for that. I was
install a particular package for mplayer and used the -y switch. Fedora
decided it needed 75 packages updated. I wasn't really watching as I did not
suspect that I would be updated into crap.
It is considered good practice to oversee installations/upgrades.
Besides the utter stupidity of an install/upgrade methodology which
is
irreversable, KDE 4 is not yet ready for prime time.
It is not irreversible.
As for KDE4 that's a matter of opinion, I would upgrade now as the
improved konsole, konqueror, dolphin and gwenview are really good. And
so is plasma. But my distaste for manual labor always takes the best.
I have since been able to confirm that Fedora now includes the dev repo as
it was created/installed by default on the re-install...and I now have
another case of library hell underway and will have to nuke the beast and
start again, again. Because if ONE important file gets updated you cannot
revert it out without removing the 40 packages which depend on it.
And no I didn't 'make a backup beforehand'. How could I reasonably make a
backup of the entire OS?
As everyone else, with rsync.
As it is, my data is on separate partitions. Nuking
the / partition is no problem. The waste of time to reinstall is the
problem.
I don't do a clean install for 8 years now (tar and rsync have sufficed)
so I wouldn't know.
--
Jose Celestino
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