Hi guys I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically. thanks in advance nathan
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:57:39 +0800 Nathan Huang wrote:
I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically.
If you have a specific question this list is an excellent resource for getting information of all kinds, but you have to ask a good question to get a good answer.
There are many good sites and tutorials on the net that you can find by typing your question or area of interest into Google.
Since your interest is in network administration, I recommend this site which was (and is) an invaluable resource when setting up a network, mail server and so on:
http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/
However, if you don't know much about Linux in general, you may want to go through some of the many sites that I see when I type "linux for beginners" into the Google search box.
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 12:01 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:57:39 +0800 Nathan Huang wrote:
I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically.
If you have a specific question this list is an excellent resource for getting information of all kinds, but you have to ask a good question to get a good answer.
There are many good sites and tutorials on the net that you can find by typing your question or area of interest into Google.
Since your interest is in network administration, I recommend this site which was (and is) an invaluable resource when setting up a network, mail server and so on:
http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/
However, if you don't know much about Linux in general, you may want to go through some of the many sites that I see when I type "linux for beginners" into the Google search box.
-- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com
Hi, Frank, You are both right and not right. There are a LOT of bits of information on the web. However, not all are well written or well supportive to the newbie. Some are even very out of date, which in some cases means wrong about how things work now.
When a newbie asks this question they are looking for guidance on the best available material. I know that this is a somewhat loaded question, but there are several places that we all use. I haven't checked lately, but I know for example that Fedora had some tutorials started, and that we have discussed this issue before, as I stated earlier, though things change. What was the best is now a bit long in the tooth. Maybe we need somewhere to collect the current "best available" list of documentation and training. Unfortunately I don't know how to implement that, but I know that it is an issue. With paper books, they had copyright dates, and often the preface told which software version they addressed, and I would often refer to those bits to see if the data was accurate and up to date. But many on line documents seem to leave that out. So how does one go about checking what is the best sources for training and reference material?
Regards, Les H
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Nathan Huang <nathan.vorbei.tech@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi guys I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically. thanks in advance nathan
When the date was Sunday 19 April 2009, Nathan Huang wrote:
Hi guys I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically.
First of all, I think your approach to the subject is the most promising: Although you can get a grip on systems administration by surfing the gazillion of HOWTOs and tutorials, a good book will introduce you to the broader context in a structured way.
To the point, I would suggest to invest some time studying on UNIX administration in general instead of Fedora specific.
"Essential System Administration" by Æleen Frisch
and
"UNIX System Administration Handbook" by Evi Nemeth et al
both on their third edition are excellent.
Also, "The Art of UNIX programming" by ESR (don't be scared by the title, is a bit misleading) will introduce to more abstract UNIX concepts. Actually, pretty much all of ESR work is a good reading.
http://catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/
Having a UNIX mindset, jumping to any specific distribution is pretty straight forward, and we will be around to help. Even then, I would recommend you to experiment, besides Fedora, with Slackware and Debian as different distro paradigms.
Have a lot of fun ;-)
I'm working through APUE at the moment, kinda..., only it relies on a stream library "stropts.h" that isn't around any longer, for a few chapters. Anyone know how to get around that? I thought this text was more popular but I can't find any info on this problem.
On Seg, 2009-04-20 at 19:18 -0500, anonymous wrote:
I'm working through APUE at the moment, kinda..., only it relies on a stream library "stropts.h" that isn't around any longer, for a few chapters. Anyone know how to get around that? I thought this text was more popular but I can't find any info on this problem.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439403
Working around this is kinda didactic :)
-- Jose Celestino SAPO.pt::Systems http://www.sapo.pt --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Progress (n.): The process through which Usenet has evolved from smart people in front of dumb terminals to dumb people in front of smart terminals.
Les in his posting wonders how you can check the versions to which online documentation applies and I'm concerned about that too. I think the quickest way to learn is to grab a few different distros, figure out how to install them, and then do a combination of researching with Google and asking questions on various mailing lists. Learning how to Google an answer or research some point of interest is really important. Asking good questions on mailing lists can result in very interesting responses from truly expert people.
In addition to the above, I've subscribed to the same mailing lists for years and download all the messages. I try never to miss a message. In this way Thunderbird becomes a kind of loosely organized knowledgebase. It travels with me everywhere. When I have a question I search my messages first. Often someone else asked the same question (pick any number and put it in this space) years ago and elicited several still-valid responses and I can put the answer to use then and there. Sometimes also, reviewing these makes me wonder if there is updated information available, and then I may Google more and/or ask a question.
Take Unix classes as well because then you benefit from an experienced instructor and students with varying expertise levels.
Dive in with a distro and get your hands very dirty. (Smile.)
Bob
On 04/19/2009 12:57 PM, Nathan Huang wrote:
Hi guys I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically. thanks in advance nathan
Nathan Huang wrote, On 04/19/2009 12:57 PM:
Hi guys I am new fan in fedora redhat linux, I am intereted in linux and network administration, who can introduce me some execellent ebook, so that I can learn linux systematically. thanks in advance nathan
It is not an E book, and it is becoming a bit dated (when compared to Fedora, but matches up fair with RHEL), but it gives a well rounded look at doing Linux system admin and gets you ready for the Linux+ test[1] to boot:
Linux+ Study Guide, 3rd Edition (XKO-002) by Roderick W. Smith (Author) # Paperback: 592 pages # Publisher: Sybex; 3 edition (February 9, 2005) # Language: English # ISBN-10: 078214389X # ISBN-13: 978-0782143898 http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Study-Guide-3rd-XKO-002/dp/078214389X/ref=sr_11_...
I expect a new book will need to come out sometime shortly as CompTIA is preparing to update the test to version XK1-003 [2]
[1] http://certification.comptia.org/linux/ [2] http://certification.comptia.org/linux/betainfo.aspx