Has anyone experience using Maple on Fedora? Any comments?
Thanks.
Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's brilliant. -- Hiisi.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:41:17PM +0300, Hiisi wrote:
Has anyone experience using Maple on Fedora? Any comments?
Thanks.
Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's brilliant. -- Hiisi.
I have Maxima, but no hard copy manual. I am looking for a company to publish the manual as a book to make it easier to read.
Dave Feustel wrote, On 03/20/2009 04:47 PM:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:41:17PM +0300, Hiisi wrote:
Has anyone experience using Maple on Fedora? Any comments?
Thanks.
Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's brilliant. -- Hiisi.
I have Maxima, but no hard copy manual. I am looking for a company to publish the manual as a book to make it easier to read.
Is the Maxima documentation in PDF, or do you know how to get it into that state? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=printing.services++pdf&btnG=Sea... http://fedex.com/us/office/copyprint/copy/digital_printing.html?lid=Learnmor... http://www.rushprintingservices.com/ http://www.printrunner.com/ ...
I am not saying it's cheap, just available.
Also had you noticed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems ...wow, it's been a while since I looked for these things, I did not realize there were so many open source ones.
Todd Denniston wrote:
Is the Maxima documentation in PDF, or do you know how to get it into that state? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=printing.services++pdf&btnG=Sea... http://fedex.com/us/office/copyprint/copy/digital_printing.html?lid=Learnmor... http://www.rushprintingservices.com/ http://www.printrunner.com/
There are some pdf files at http://www.math.psu.edu/glasner/Max_doc/index.html
I have Maxima, but no hard copy manual. I am looking for a company to publish the manual as a book to make it easier to read.
Assuming the license lets you do it or you have permission take a look at lulu.com which will do short run print on demand stuff. It's Bob Young's next project after he handed over the reins at Red Hat
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 05:26:01PM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
Dave Feustel wrote, On 03/20/2009 04:47 PM:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:41:17PM +0300, Hiisi wrote:
Has anyone experience using Maple on Fedora? Any comments?
Thanks.
Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's brilliant. -- Hiisi.
I have Maxima, but no hard copy manual. I am looking for a company to publish the manual as a book to make it easier to read.
Is the Maxima documentation in PDF, or do you know how to get it into that state?
The entire 870 page manual is available as pdf in several languages at the maxima website.
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/manual/en/maxima.pdf
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=printing.services++pdf&btnG=Sea... http://fedex.com/us/office/copyprint/copy/digital_printing.html?lid=Learnmor... http://www.rushprintingservices.com/ http://www.printrunner.com/ ...
I am not saying it's cheap, just available.
Also had you noticed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems ...wow, it's been a while since I looked for these things, I did not realize there were so many open source ones.
-- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
| From: Hiisi very-cool@rambler.ru
| Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another | symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's | brilliant.
My daughter bought Mathmatica for a project perhaps five years ago. She ran it on RHL9 or something like it. Anyway, she would have to relicence it to move it to a newer distro release or machine so she still runs it on the same ancient machine.
If she had bought it for Windows XP, it would have had a much longer lifetime.
Lesson: proprietary licensing models work even worse on open platforms because open platform have a tradition of binary obsolescence.
Perhaps Maplesoft has a better upgrade model than Wolfram.
The only symbolic algebra package I ever bought was muMATH for the z80: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuMATH I never got it to work due to its kind of copy protection. There's a theme here.
PARI/GP worked well for my modest needs but it would not work for yours.
D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
| From: Hiisi very-cool@rambler.ru
| Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another | symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's | brilliant.
My daughter bought Mathmatica for a project perhaps five years ago. She ran it on RHL9 or something like it. Anyway, she would have to relicence it to move it to a newer distro release or machine so she still runs it on the same ancient machine.
If she had bought it for Windows XP, it would have had a much longer lifetime.
Lesson: proprietary licensing models work even worse on open platforms because open platform have a tradition of binary obsolescence.
Perhaps Maplesoft has a better upgrade model than Wolfram.
The only symbolic algebra package I ever bought was muMATH for the z80: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuMATH I never got it to work due to its kind of copy protection. There's a theme here.
PARI/GP worked well for my modest needs but it would not work for yours.
This has been my experience as well. Maple and Matlab both ostensibly can be installed on Linux but in practice it's difficult or impossible. I tried years ago, gave up and run them both in Windows. Open source substitutes sometimes do what I need and sometimes not. If I have time I play with them. In principle I like Linux and open source, but am by no means ideological about it.
I have used Mathematica on Fedora for a number of years. I have found that if I contact Mathematica and explain that I have updated my OS and need a new password for the new configuration, that I get what I need with no problem.
-----Original Message----- From: David Liguori [mailto:liguorid@albany.edu] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:23 AM To: D. Hugh Redelmeier; Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Maple on Fedora
D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
| From: Hiisi very-cool@rambler.ru
| Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to | choose another symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( | maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's brilliant.
My daughter bought Mathmatica for a project perhaps five years ago. She ran it on RHL9 or something like it. Anyway, she would have to relicence it to move it to a newer distro release or machine so she still runs it on the same ancient machine.
If she had bought it for Windows XP, it would have had a much longer lifetime.
Lesson: proprietary licensing models work even worse on open platforms
because open platform have a tradition of binary obsolescence.
Perhaps Maplesoft has a better upgrade model than Wolfram.
The only symbolic algebra package I ever bought was muMATH for the z80: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuMATH I never got it to work due to its kind of copy protection. There's a theme here.
PARI/GP worked well for my modest needs but it would not work for yours.
This has been my experience as well. Maple and Matlab both ostensibly can be installed on Linux but in practice it's difficult or impossible.
I tried years ago, gave up and run them both in Windows. Open source substitutes sometimes do what I need and sometimes not. If I have time I play with them. In principle I like Linux and open source, but am by no means ideological about it.
| From: "Smith, Herb" herb.smith@boeing.com
| I have used Mathematica on Fedora for a number of years. I have found | that if I contact Mathematica and explain that I have updated my OS and | need a new password for the new configuration, that I get what I need | with no problem.
Good to hear.
Perhaps I should include more details.
The version my daughter has is no longer supported. In fact, it wasn't even supported when she got a new computer about two years after her initial purchase.
Since some system libraries were statically linked into the program, it was not possible to run the binary that she had on a then-current Fedora.
Since that version of Mathematica was no longer supported, she could not get that version linked with newer libraries.
There was no upgrade path for Mathematica versions. She had an inexpensive student license and would need to buy it all over again (she was and is still a student). Perhaps a full-priced license has a discounted upgrade path.
She only uses Mathematica once in a blue moon. I would guess that she would use it more if she had it at hand. But she doesn't feel that her usage would justify relicensing. Besides, she feels that that would be an invitation for the same thing to happen again.
Perhaps we were misinformed about Wolfram's policy but we got it from conversations with their support folks.
Anyway, the take-away is that binary licenses don't always mix well with open platforms due to those platforms' quick evolution. This is especially true of Fedora as opposed to, say, *BSD or RHEL/CentOS.
David Liguori wrote:
This has been my experience as well. Maple and Matlab both ostensibly can be installed on Linux but in practice it's difficult or impossible. I tried years ago, gave up and run them both in Windows. Open source substitutes sometimes do what I need and sometimes not. If I have time I play with them. In principle I like Linux and open source, but am by no means ideological about it.
Beware - after today's updates including Fedora 10 Update: java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10 it appears that Maple 12 which was running fine in F10 for me is now broken - I am not sure if this java update is the culprit but some other applications are also not working any more - eg Okular
I now have some key applications no longer working - and not very happy!
Mike Cloaked wrote:
Beware - after today's updates including Fedora 10 Update: java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10 it appears that Maple 12 which was running fine in F10 for me is now broken - I am not sure if this java update is the culprit but some other applications are also not working any more - eg Okular
I now have some key applications no longer working - and not very happy!
It turned out that this failure was nothing to do with any updated packages today - but was due to changing the graphics card and monitor - which in turn caused .gconf and/or .gconfd to get messed up. Moving these two directories to new names and restarting gnome gave a fully working application again.
Apologies for the report - and hope it did not cause any excessive worries.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:58:09AM -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote:
Mike Cloaked wrote:
Beware - after today's updates including Fedora 10 Update: java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10 it appears that Maple 12 which was running fine in F10 for me is now broken - I am not sure if this java update is the culprit but some other applications are also not working any more - eg Okular
I now have some key applications no longer working - and not very happy!
It turned out that this failure was nothing to do with any updated packages today - but was due to changing the graphics card and monitor - which in turn caused .gconf and/or .gconfd to get messed up. Moving these two directories to new names and restarting gnome gave a fully working application again.
Apologies for the report - and hope it did not cause any excessive worries.
It worried me, but I went ahead and ordered Maple 12 anyway.
"Damn the torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!"
dfeustel wrote:
Apologies for the report - and hope it did not cause any excessive worries.
It worried me, but I went ahead and ordered Maple 12 anyway.
"Damn the torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!"
There are always defensive options available! I run Maple 12 32bit and no Compiz and no desktop effects.... and I run this on several machines with no problems. Good luck.