Hi,
I'm trying to install fc17 from a USB key and the graphical install crashes with a segfault and falls back to text-mode install. I have an Asus P8B-M motherboard with an onboard "Aspeed AST2050 with 16MB VRAM" video chip.
How can I copy the /tmp/X.org log file to the USB key so I can attempt to find out what's wrong? Would it even benefit anyone or help with getting it installed on my system?
What are my options right now? I know I could probably go back to fc16 or wait until fc18 and hope it's fixed, or buy another video card, but I'd like to see if there's something I'm missing that I can do right now. Text mode isn't an option for me, because I need better control over the disk formatting options.
Ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex
Alex writes:
Hi,
I'm trying to install fc17 from a USB key and the graphical install crashes with a segfault and falls back to text-mode install. I have an Asus P8B-M motherboard with an onboard "Aspeed AST2050 with 16MB VRAM" video chip.
How can I copy the /tmp/X.org log file to the USB key so I can attempt to find out what's wrong? Would it even benefit anyone or help with getting it installed on my system?
What are my options right now? I know I could probably go back to fc16 or wait until fc18 and hope it's fixed, or buy another video card, but I'd like to see if there's something I'm missing that I can do right now. Text mode isn't an option for me, because I need better control over the disk formatting options.
Ideas greatly appreciated.
If you're on a network, you can go for a text install, then select an option to run a VNC server, then connect to the machine over the network with TigerVNC, and run the same GUI version of Anaconda to execute the install.
Alex wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to install fc17 from a USB key and the graphical install crashes with a segfault and falls back to text-mode install. I have an Asus P8B-M motherboard with an onboard "Aspeed AST2050 with 16MB VRAM" video chip.
How can I copy the /tmp/X.org log file to the USB key so I can attempt to find out what's wrong? Would it even benefit anyone or help with getting it installed on my system?
What are my options right now? I know I could probably go back to fc16 or wait until fc18 and hope it's fixed, or buy another video card, but I'd like to see if there's something I'm missing that I can do right now. Text mode isn't an option for me, because I need better control over the disk formatting options.
See the "Live USB" thread I started about the same time as this, same issue I'm 99+% sure. If you haven't tried the "Basic graphics" install, you might try that, although it failed miserably for me. It looks as if the boot runs using the VESA driver and then tries to use another X driver when bringing up GNOME3. That's not proved yet, but the "throbbing meatball" boot animation looks fine, then GNOME3 can't bring up a shell and doesn't drop to basic mode, or something like that.
Ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex
Hi,
What are my options right now? I know I could probably go back to fc16 or wait until fc18 and hope it's fixed, or buy another video card, but I'd like to see if there's something I'm missing that I can do right now. Text mode isn't an option for me, because I need better control over the disk formatting options.
See the "Live USB" thread I started about the same time as this, same issue I'm 99+% sure. If you haven't tried the "Basic graphics" install, you might
Is this something I need to do at grub time? I'm not in front of it now, but I only recall there being an install and recovery options during boot. Unless a special Fn key combination or special grub config is used?
try that, although it failed miserably for me. It looks as if the boot runs using the VESA driver and then tries to use another X driver when bringing up GNOME3. That's not proved yet, but the "throbbing meatball" boot
The normal graphical install just segfaults when it tries to load a module.
Regarding doing this across the network with VNC. First, there is no networking enabled at the time the Xorg server starts, so it basically fails before I have networking installed.
Second, VNC will only give me a remote view of what's currently on the desktop, so I don't understand how that's going to help. Unless you mean set my display to be my local PC?
Thanks again, Alex
Alex wrote:
Hi,
What are my options right now? I know I could probably go back to fc16 or wait until fc18 and hope it's fixed, or buy another video card, but I'd like to see if there's something I'm missing that I can do right now. Text mode isn't an option for me, because I need better control over the disk formatting options.
See the "Live USB" thread I started about the same time as this, same issue I'm 99+% sure. If you haven't tried the "Basic graphics" install, you might
Is this something I need to do at grub time? I'm not in front of it now, but I only recall there being an install and recovery options during boot. Unless a special Fn key combination or special grub config is used?
Indeed, arrow down to the basic install line and hit ENTER. SHould be the 2nd or 3rd down, I'm not in front of it either now. But that option is in 17, I don't recall it being in 16 (might be my memory).
If you need or want to try something else, hit TAB and edit the grub line before boot.
try that, although it failed miserably for me. It looks as if the boot runs using the VESA driver and then tries to use another X driver when bringing up GNOME3. That's not proved yet, but the "throbbing meatball" boot
The normal graphical install just segfaults when it tries to load a module.
Regarding doing this across the network with VNC. First, there is no networking enabled at the time the Xorg server starts, so it basically fails before I have networking installed.
Second, VNC will only give me a remote view of what's currently on the desktop, so I don't understand how that's going to help. Unless you mean set my display to be my local PC?
Thanks again, Alex
Hi,
The normal graphical install just segfaults when it tries to load a module.
Regarding doing this across the network with VNC. First, there is no networking enabled at the time the Xorg server starts, so it basically fails before I have networking installed.
I happened to be reading some documentation and came across info on starting a vncserver at boot time. It's documented here:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/sn-rem...
However, it doesn't work. Turns out they didn't test it before creating fc17, so it just doesn't work. This also segfaults. There are a few open bugs. The solution is basically to use fc18 when it's available. Pretty neat idea, though.
Indeed, arrow down to the basic install line and hit ENTER. SHould be the 2nd or 3rd down, I'm not in front of it either now. But that option is in 17, I don't recall it being in 16 (might be my memory).
Turns out I was able to get it to install by choosing the second option, Troubleshooting, then choosing "Use Basic VGA", which must just load a basic VGA Xorg driver.
Thanks, Alex
Alex wrote:
Hi,
The normal graphical install just segfaults when it tries to load a module.
Regarding doing this across the network with VNC. First, there is no networking enabled at the time the Xorg server starts, so it basically fails before I have networking installed.
I happened to be reading some documentation and came across info on starting a vncserver at boot time. It's documented here:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/sn-rem...
However, it doesn't work. Turns out they didn't test it before creating fc17, so it just doesn't work. This also segfaults. There are a few open bugs. The solution is basically to use fc18 when it's available. Pretty neat idea, though.
Indeed, arrow down to the basic install line and hit ENTER. SHould be the 2nd or 3rd down, I'm not in front of it either now. But that option is in 17, I don't recall it being in 16 (might be my memory).
Turns out I was able to get it to install by choosing the second option, Troubleshooting, then choosing "Use Basic VGA", which must just load a basic VGA Xorg driver.
Glad it worked for you, I tried the basic graphics (uses VESA xdriver), which didn't work, removed the "nomodeset" option which then got me to a nice GNOME3 wallpaper but no login or apps, I substituted the radeon xdriver fot VESA with the same results. I tried manually setting the VESA resolution. I tried swearing at it. I think I can safely say that neither fc16 nor fc17 are going to ever install on this machine, fc11 with selected security upgrade forever.
Glad your worked for you!
Hi,
Turns out I was able to get it to install by choosing the second option, Troubleshooting, then choosing "Use Basic VGA", which must just load a basic VGA Xorg driver.
Glad it worked for you, I tried the basic graphics (uses VESA xdriver), which didn't work, removed the "nomodeset" option which then got me to a nice GNOME3 wallpaper but no login or apps,
Have you tried switching terminals to see if it's printed any debugging info that might indicate what the problem might be? Check out /tmp/X.log as well.
I substituted the radeon xdriver fot VESA with the same results. I tried manually setting the VESA
How did you do that?
resolution. I tried swearing at it. I think I can safely say that neither fc16 nor fc17 are going to ever install on this machine, fc11 with selected security upgrade forever.
fc18 should be out in a day or so, assuming there are no further delays. At the least, the vnc install option should be available.
Regards, Alex