On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 04:26:04PM -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>If only that were true... NVidia has stated plenty times that
they don't
>make many parts of the cards (which leads me to think they're crapware
>producers) as the reason for not publishing.
You've come to this conclusion because personally know of numerous
other hardware companies that do design every single component that
goes into their products?
What's this got to do with it? I'm not criticizing it, I'm saying it's a
lame excuse. Others don't feel that as a problem, NVidia only does it,
in great part I suspect, due to DRM.
>Besides, the biggest trade secret might be that many things are
done in
>software at the main CPU instead of the GPU. Who knows... maybe you're
>eating a cat while wondering what a nice rabbit stew NVidia allowed you
>to use.
>
>> > You won't have people complaining that VMware Server isn't OSS.
They
>can
>> > use qemu, bochs, xen, whatever. The drive images format is relatively
>> > known, so you can use them with some of the other systems.
>>
>> IMO, qemu, bochs, xen, and whatever are just not as easy to use.
>
>plonk... any user who uses virtualization shouldn't be so technically
>challenged as to think qemu is hard at all to use...
Clearly you've never used vmware if that's your opinion. The learning
curve required to use vmware is almost flat. The learning curve
required to use qemu, bochs, kvm and especially xen is incredibly
steep.
I'm not saying which is easiest to use, that's a shallow point. I'm just
wondering how anyone can find qemu's learning curve steep... but maybe
that's just me.
>I don't know enough about GPUs to say what's enough, but
if you compare
>Intels behaviour with that of NVidia with such dismissal... I'd say you
>know even less.
So you don't know enough about a topic, yet you've formed very strong
opinions, and have attempted to force them on others?
Again the false "force" argument. I don't remembering forcing anyone,
but maybe I have alzheimer's, who knows...
>My older GeForce that I got rid of isn't any longer supported
by NVidia.
That is patently untrue. All GeForce cards are still fully supported
by NVIDIA.
Was some time ago, but this list does seem to be longer now, and
maybe it includes it. I got rid of it 5 or 6 years ago, so I can't
remember anymore the precise model.
(list:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html )
>I wouldn't be able to use FC7 in that computer. Fortunately I
bought a
>fully supported ATI card, a 7200, and today lo and behold... I even get
>a fast compiz there!
>
>What about PPC people? Are they forbidden to have a graphics card
>because NVidia doesn't care about them?
What leads you to that conclusion?
No PPC driver here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
Also no driver for OpenBSD people.
>*sigh* This is even denser that an idiot who defends DRM.
Seeing as how nearly every comment & opinion that you've stated above
is based on false information, I don't think you're in any position to
be calling anyone dense or an idiot.
Suits you fine, it would seem.
Rui
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