RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
by Dan Thurman
Craig White wrote:
| Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
| > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send
| > out email.
| >
| > Please advise?
| ----
| Edit (menu) => Account Settings => Outgoing Server SMTP
|
| Select the setup you have and click 'Edit'
|
| By default, Thunderbird uses 'authentication' on
| sending...this can be a
| problem with some setups.
What is odd, it seems, that when you create an IMAP
account, in the "Server Settings" area, there is a
"Security Settings" section there where authenication
can be defined, however, there is also a "Outgoing
Server (SMTP)" section that has a "Security And
Authenication" section which duplicates it, ie the
"None", "TLS, if available", ...
What is not clear to me in the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)"
section, "Use name and password", how do you enter both
the username and password in this single field? What is
the delimiter? A space between the two?
I have configured my Exchange server to allow all local
only relays, and I even see the log entries identifying
connections, and there appears in it, no errors as to
failed deliveries. It seems very transparent.
I have no clue where the problem is, I get no returned
failed delivery return messages. It is very transparent,
or so it seems.
I wonder if I should use F8's sendmail for Outbound
deliveries on the F8 system, providing I have the option
to bypass the IMAP account's Outgoing server settings.
I remembered why I abandoned Thunderbird and it was
because I could not figure out how to make outbound
non-local deliveries.
Sigh.... it is going to be a long day.
Dan
15 years, 11 months
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
by Dan Thurman
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
| Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
| > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send
| > out email.
|
| You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the
| very least
| you need to configure an SMTP server.
I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server,
so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But
I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local
messages.
I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails
via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent.
I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote
outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the
appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to
Fedora-Users but was unable to do so.
Any ideas?
Dan
15 years, 11 months
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
by Dan Thurman
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
| Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
| > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
| > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
| > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send
| > | > out email.
| > |
| > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the
| > | very least
| > | you need to configure an SMTP server.
| >
| > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server,
| > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But
| > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local
| > messages.
|
| IMAP and SMTP are completely and utterly independant of each
| other. Just
| because you have IMAP set up to read mail, and maybe to post in local
| mailboxes, means absolutely nothing to SMTP. You have to set it up
| separately.
Understood. I was not exactly clear if by using an IMAP client,
that messages delivered via IMAP acts as if the message was sent
directly via the SMTP server as an authorized user, no different
that using an Outlook client - but that may be a wrong assumption
so it seems.
| > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails
| > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent.
|
| Then it should be easy. Just copy the SMTP settings from Outlook. OTOH
| if Outlook is using an Exchange server then I'm afraid can't help you.
Yes, that may be the case. Outlook (not Outlook Express) is connected
to the Exchange server from a windows workstation (or server) and it
probably already "knows" how to authenicate, thus allows remote delivery
(in other words, it was not a relay issue.
| > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote
| > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the
| > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to
| > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so.
|
| What do you mean "refused"? Is this a pop-up message on your screen,
| a returned error email, or what? Is there no indication of why it's
| refused? Is it refused by your local server or by a remote server? Are
| you using a fully-qualified domain name for the destination
| or some kind of local alias?
By refused, I mean there is no indication that there was a delivery
failure, no pop-ups, nothing. It was totally transparent. It wasn't
until I realized that my outbound message to Fedora-User never
got there.
Thanks!
Dan
15 years, 11 months
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
by Dan Thurman
Craig White wrote:
| Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
| > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
| > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
| > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send
| > | > out email.
| > |
| > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the
| > | very least
| > | you need to configure an SMTP server.
| >
| > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server,
| > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But
| > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local
| > messages.
| >
| > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails
| > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent.
| >
| > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote
| > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the
| > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to
| > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so.
| ----
| sounds like you have some relay restrictions on your smtp
| server...what is it? Sendmail? Postfix?
My main server is Exchange. You do have a point there, that
I may have relay restrictions for outbound deliveries but
local deliveries work. Ah, I'll have to check this out.
Thanks!
Dan
15 years, 11 months
F9 tftp broken?!
by Christian Schuermann
Hi there,
I just upgraded from F8 but unfortunately I can't convince tftp to do
what it is supposed to do.
My dhcpd is configured with the next-server option pointing to my new F9
tftp-server. Just like this:
# cat /etc/dhcpd.conf
[...]
next-server 192.168.178.15;
filename "pxelinux.0";
[...]
When I try to pxeboot one of my clients it gets an ip address from the
dhcp-server but fails to fetch the pxelinux.0 file. After a few seconds
it runs into a timeout
PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
On the tftp machine everything seems fine
# netstat -an | grep :69
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
except one little thing: On my old F8 tftp machine a process called
in.tftp was created whenever as soon as the first client connected
$ ps -e | grep in.tftp
28827 ? 00:00:00 in.tftpd
That one is missing on the new F9 machine.
There are a few things in bugzilla concerning tftp but nothing that
really helps me here. I recently upgraded to tftp-server-0.48-6.fc9.i386
but this didn't help either.
Any ideas? Should I bugzilla?
Regards, Chris
15 years, 11 months
nvidia drivers now available from livna - has anyone tried?
by Eric Mesa
Up until now I've been holding back from upgrading to F9 (from F8) because
of the lack of nvidia drivers. My dual-head setup works just fine and I
didn't want to muck about in xorg.conf to fix it up until the new nvidia
driver became available. So every day I've been trawling the net for news
of Xorg 7.4 to come out or an nvidia driver to be released. On the Xorg
front, the news is not good. They've changed their release date from May
2008 to 2008. Yeah....
But I did come upon this linuxquestions.org thread (
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-9-nvidia-problem...)
where, near the bottom they mention that livna now has drivers. I
checked, and they do. http://livna-dl.reloumirrors.net/fedora/9/i386/
So I have two questions:
1) Has anyone tried this? Does it in fact work with Fedora 9's pre-release
Xorg 7.4? I don't use Compiz, but I do use 3D acceleration for games and
Blender
2) If I were to go the preupgrade route, do I first install the livna Fedora
9 repo package and then preupgrade? (I have some other livna packages
installed) Do I preupgrade and then install the latest livna repo package?
Does preupgrade fail with this type of situation? Should I just do yum
upgrade again?
Thanks!
--
Eric Mesa
http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com
15 years, 11 months
Re: nvidia drivers now available from livna - has anyone tried?
by Antti Aspinen
1. I'm currently running Fedora 9 using Livna nvidia drivers and my
games work all right. (etqw) KDE's desktop effects work ok too but I
don't use them. :)
2. I am pretty sure that preupgrade method is not worth trying at the
moment. I did it at first. It was crash-ill but everything went smoothly
to the point that it had everything installed. My problems started when
anaconda told me to reboot. Fedora9 didn't boot because it couldn't find
hard drives. I had also other problems with it. I don't suggest that way
exept for testing what's it a like in future. And to send suggestions of
course.
I didn't install livna-repo-f9 package since I thought that
preupgrade/anaconda will be smart enought to update configs too. So that
I can install it later and then upgrade those packages.
I suggest yum upgrade if you don't want to do clean install or download
fedora9 dvd for the sake of upgrading.
--
Antti Aspinen <antti.aspinen(a)phnet.fi>
15 years, 11 months
rsyslog vs sysklogd
by Steve Blackwell
I upgraded my system from F7 to F9 using preupgrade. I have since found out that sysklogd was replaced by rsyslog in f8 but my updated f9 system still has the fc7 sysklogd package installed.
Is this a bug in preupgrade or is it intentional? Also is it OK for me to do:
# rpm -nodeps sysklogd
# yum install rsyslog
without totally mangling the system?
Steve
15 years, 11 months
Re: F7 -> F9 preupgrade problems. Can't start X
by Steve Blackwell
---- Jonathan Baron <baron(a)psych.upenn.edu> wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> I tried system-config-display and it didn't help, but I did it
> remotely. This is my office computer, which I almost never use except
> as a (very busy) web server. I manage it by connecting from
> elsewhere, including my laptop, which I use even at work. So I tried
> system-config-display through vnc (which worked). I'll try again the
> next time I'm in front of it. Meanwhile, we can see what comes of my
> bug report. I'll let you know if I learn anything useful. But I
> suspect it is a bug and will eventually get fixed. Until I read your
> post, I thought my video card had died.
>
There are definitely bugs associated with display setup. When I tried to set up my second monitor using the GUI (System->Administration->Display), it just sits there when you hit the OK button; the GUI never updates anything. Several people have reported this. I have also tried an xorg.conf file that crashed setroubleshootd!!! No answers on that one either.
Something else you might want to try is to remove your xorg.conf file (rename it) and then reboot. The new X server is supposed to be able to determine what configuration it needs by looking at your hardware.
> Jon
>
> On 05/30/08 12:46, Steve wrote:
> >
> > ---- Jonathan Baron <baron(a)psych.upenn.edu> wrote:
> > > Oh. Interesting.
> >
> > > What I was going to ask you was whether you ever got it working. I
> > > have exactly the same problem.
> >
> > Sort of... I logged in as root at a text console and ran system-config-display and
> > that got me one screen working (I have a dual monitor setup). I don't have the
> > second monitor working and I'm not getting any replies form the list. I'm going to
> > have to experiment some more.
> >
> > Steve.
>
> --
> Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania
> Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron
> Editor: Judgment and Decision Making (http://journal.sjdm.org)
15 years, 11 months