Thanks for all your advice... I see it can be done...
Many people asked "why FrontPage"... Well to make a long story short.. I don't have a choice..
Thanks again... All have been a great source of information...
-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Eggers Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:03 PM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: FC3, Apache, and Front Page
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 15:15 -0500, Temlakos wrote:
editors that function in a back-office fashion. However, they do allow the creation and editing of Web pages on my own hardware, and the publication of those pages to their server space. They have "Front Page" extensions, too--but I don't want to bother with MS Front Page if I don't have to.
How do they allow you to publish pages to their site? If by ftp, there are a lot of tools that can manage that.
If by webdav, then at least Quanta+ works. Screem appears to work as well, but I'm not as fond of the Screem interface. I don't know if any of the WYSIWYG page editors work with webdav.
Speaking of WYSIWYG page editors, there are at least three that I know of.
NVU - see www.nvu.com Mozilla Composer - see www.mozilla.org OpenOffice Writer/Web - see www.openoffice.org
That said, I don't like any of them. In particular, the handling of <div></div> is very poor. At best, you'll get absolutely positioned divisions which is a bane for liquid designs.
Also, they generate at best transitional HTML (not strict or XHTML). The end result is sloppy (possibly non-compliant) HTML that may not work the same in all browsers.
I alternate between Bluefish and jEdit. Neither are WYSIWYG. Just my opinion . . . .
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Randy L. Justice wrote:
| RE: FC3, Apache, and Front Page | | Thanks for all your advice... I see it can be done... | | Many people asked "why FrontPage"... Well to make a long story | short.. I don't have a choice.. | I generally find that administrators usually have more choice than they think. Remember, users state they need something because they know what works. However, they rarely understand the ramifications of their choice. The trick is to offer good alternatives that allow them to do what they need, with a minimal amount of adjustment. In this case, the better choice would probably be WebDAV. WinXP supports it out of the box, and it is fairly trivial to set up on Apache.
Remember, listening to your users is more than following their words. You are, or should be, the expert. Listen to their needs, and temper that against reality. FrontPage is a nightmare. WebDAV is much more secure, and will solve the same problem without propeitary extentions, and works "out of the box" in WinXP.
HTH Kevin Fries
Kevin Fries wrote:
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Randy L. Justice wrote:
| RE: FC3, Apache, and Front Page | | Thanks for all your advice... I see it can be done... | | Many people asked "why FrontPage"... Well to make a long story | short.. I don't have a choice.. | I generally find that administrators usually have more choice than they think. Remember, users state they need something because they know what works. However, they rarely understand the ramifications of their choice. The trick is to offer good alternatives that allow them to do what they need, with a minimal amount of adjustment. In this case, the better choice would probably be WebDAV. WinXP supports it out of the box, and it is fairly trivial to set up on Apache.
Remember, listening to your users is more than following their words. You are, or should be, the expert. Listen to their needs, and temper that against reality. FrontPage is a nightmare. WebDAV is much more secure, and will solve the same problem without propeitary extentions, and works "out of the box" in WinXP.
Not sure if anybody mentioned this before or not:
http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport/end-of-life.htm
HTH Kevin Fries
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