When did Konqueror become enslaved to Google? Is there a way to liberate it? Or at least to get it back to displaying man pages?
I don't use Google, except by way of Duckduckgo or other privacy- providing intermediary. In fact, my main and almost only use of Konqueror is for man pages, which fonts big enough for my ancient eyeballs format unreadably elsewhere. (I run Mate, and if I could find a second string to Brasero that I could count on, I could uninstall all of KDE.)
On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 15:51 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
When did Konqueror become enslaved to Google? Is there a way to liberate it? Or at least to get it back to displaying man pages?
I don't use Google, except by way of Duckduckgo or other privacy- providing intermediary. In fact, my main and almost only use of Konqueror is for man pages, which fonts big enough for my ancient eyeballs format unreadably elsewhere. (I run Mate, and if I could find a second string to Brasero that I could count on, I could uninstall all of KDE.)
Maybe ask on the Fedora KDE list?
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On 5/30/19 8:51 AM, Beartooth wrote:
When did Konqueror become enslaved to Google? Is there a way to liberate it? Or at least to get it back to displaying man pages?
Your underlying question seems to be how to view man pages nicely. Try using yelp (the Gnome help browser). You can call it from the command line: yelp man:crontab yelp 'man:crontab(5)'
Or you start it (it's called "Help" in the graphical interface), press CTRL-L, then enter "man:crontab" or "man:crontab(5)" in the box.
On Thu, 30 May 2019 12:06:09 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Your underlying question seems to be how to view man pages nicely.
Yes, very much so.
Try using yelp (the Gnome help browser). You can call it from the command line: yelp man:crontab yelp 'man:crontab(5)'
I did those, and they were glorious! You, SIR!, are a gentleman and a scholar and a judge of fine software. I'm deeply in your debt.
Or you start it (it's called "Help" in the graphical interface), press CTRL-L, then enter "man:crontab" or "man:crontab(5)" in the box.
Here I hit a snag small. I tried it on a Mate terminal, and on a workspace with no app running (unless panels are called apps), but neither was right, and I didn't know what graphical interface you meant. Then I thought to go through the whole main menu -- and found help under System that I had never noticed was there. Again I'm deep in your debt.
On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 12:06 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
yelp man:crontab yelp 'man:crontab(5)'
Am I the only one to think it's ironic that 'yelp' itself doesn't have a man page? Nor does it have any built-in help on how to use it. How is one supposed to know about these options?
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On 5/31/19 11:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 12:06 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
yelp man:crontab yelp 'man:crontab(5)'
Am I the only one to think it's ironic that 'yelp' itself doesn't have a man page? Nor does it have any built-in help on how to use it. How is one supposed to know about these options?
I was definitely thinking the same thing. There's not even any way to know about using CTRL-L to modify the viewed page. I just tried it because it's a fairly standard shortcut.
Allegedly, on or about 30 May 2019, Beartooth sent:
I run Mate, and if I could find a second string to Brasero that I could count on, I could uninstall all of KDE.
I run Mate, have no KDE installation, I can burn discs. You need to say what it is that you need burning software to do.
On Fri, 31 May 2019 12:42:27 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 May 2019, Beartooth sent:
I run Mate, and if I could find a second string to Brasero that I could count on, I could uninstall all of KDE.
I run Mate, have no KDE installation, I can burn discs. You need to say what it is that you need burning software to do.
All I know is that when I try either Brasero or K3B and get some sort of failure, I just pull up the other, and it does the job.
I burn media either to back up data a/o software, or to add those things onto another machine (I used to use ssh and scp with a router running dd-wrt; but a lightning strike fried my router, and I'm not competent to install dd-wrt on the new one.), or to give away live media, or to install an OS on a machine that doesn't have it.
On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 16:56 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2019 12:42:27 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 May 2019, Beartooth sent:
I run Mate, and if I could find a second string to Brasero that I could count on, I could uninstall all of KDE.
I run Mate, have no KDE installation, I can burn discs. You need to say what it is that you need burning software to do.
All I know is that when I try either Brasero or K3B and get some sort of failure, I just pull up the other, and it does the job.
I burn media either to back up data a/o software, or to add those things onto another machine (I used to use ssh and scp with a router running dd-wrt; but a lightning strike fried my router, and I'm not competent to install dd-wrt on the new one.), or to give away live media, or to install an OS on a machine that doesn't have it.
All these things can also be done with a USB thumbdrive, which is generally easier to create and faster to use.
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On 5/31/19 8:05 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 19:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
All these things can also be done with a USB thumbdrive, which is generally easier to create and faster to use.
Well, not all. I wouldn't use one for back-ups.
Why not? They are multiple times faster and have a lot more space. If you're concerned about reliability, make multiple backups. Over time it will be much cheaper as well. (And more environmentally friendly.) ;-)
On Sat, 2019-06-01 at 00:02 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/31/19 8:05 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 19:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
All these things can also be done with a USB thumbdrive, which is generally easier to create and faster to use.
Well, not all. I wouldn't use one for back-ups.
Why not? They are multiple times faster and have a lot more space. If you're concerned about reliability, make multiple backups. Over time it will be much cheaper as well. (And more environmentally friendly.) ;-)
Although I wouldn't personally use thumbdrives for backup, mainly because of having to keep track of them, an external 1TB drive costs under $50 and a 2TB under $65. That's equivalent to several hundred DVDs in capacity and orders of magnitude faster in speed. Plus it's read/write capable and can be used for incremental backups without a lot of faffing around.
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On 6/1/19 3:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2019-06-01 at 00:02 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/31/19 8:05 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 19:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
All these things can also be done with a USB thumbdrive, which is generally easier to create and faster to use.
Well, not all. I wouldn't use one for back-ups.
Why not? They are multiple times faster and have a lot more space. If you're concerned about reliability, make multiple backups. Over time it will be much cheaper as well. (And more environmentally friendly.) ;-)
Although I wouldn't personally use thumbdrives for backup, mainly because of having to keep track of them, an external 1TB drive costs under $50 and a 2TB under $65. That's equivalent to several hundred DVDs in capacity and orders of magnitude faster in speed. Plus it's read/write capable and can be used for incremental backups without a lot of faffing around.
Ok, I thought you were agreeing with using DVDs for backup. I agree that for large volumes an external hard drive is definitely the best. Also network storage for backups that don't need to go off-site.
On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 16:56 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
All I know is that when I try either Brasero or K3B and get
some sort of failure, I just pull up the other, and it does the job.
There's also XFburn, that doesn't require KDE.
You could burn data discs straight from the Nautilus file browser (probably with a plug-in), but I haven't tried that since several releases back.
I've usually found that weird burning issues were often due to crappy blank discs. With poor quality control, the next disc in the stack wasn't quite as bad as the prior, and you don't nail the issue down to the right problem. Or simply, that when the drive has another go at focussing on the disc, it succeeds.
I've found that if, when you insert a blank, the drive spends ages whizzing around trying to figure out the disc, that indicates its a bad one. Good discs whiz up virtually instantly.
These days I only use Verbatim discs. There's usually only been 2 or 3 brands to try at my shops, they've been very good, just about all others have been dire.
It can also be a compatibility issue with your drive and the discs. The discs could be good, but your drive may be bad, or simply doesn't like that brand. And drives do wear out, or simply age badly even without lots of use.
On 6/1/19 12:56 AM, Beartooth wrote:
All I know is that when I try either Brasero or K3B and get some sort of failure, I just pull up the other, and it does the job.
I don't know about brasero but with k3b you may have run into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583845
A workaround is included in the BZ
On 19-05-30 11:51:53, Beartooth wrote:
... In fact, my main and almost only use of Konqueror is for man pages, which fonts big enough for my ancient eyeballs format unreadably elsewhere. (I run Mate, ...
I set the DPI in the Appearance Settings Fonts tab to a higher number. Increase it until everything is readable. I run XFCE, but Gnome before it also had this, and so does Mate, but hidden in the Details.
On Fri, 31 May 2019 15:34:02 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Beartooth wrote:
When did Konqueror become enslaved to Google?
What's your definition of "enslaved to google" in this context?
Or at least to get it back to displaying man pages?
man:/
URL seems to work for me on fedora 30.
First, I apologize for writing while dead tired and angry. I had been unable to search any other way than with google; I have since found the cause, to the extent I can =hope= it's not googling; but I am not sanguine.
Second, man:/ brings me a sackload of stuff not from the man pages -- and again, that sackload seems to be covered all over with googleness, which disimproves my digestion.
I install every browser that Fedora supports, plus such others as seem to be safe from dependency hell (currently Opera and Vivaldi); I can't think of any other that seems determined to deliver me up to one search engine, let alone the one I try hardest to avoid.
On 6/2/19 2:35 AM, Beartooth wrote:
Second, man:/ brings me a sackload of stuff not from the man pages -- and again, that sackload seems to be covered all over with googleness, which disimproves my digestion.
Ahah!!!
I see your problem.
In konqueror there ar 2, count them 2, boxes you can enter at the top of the screen.
The right one is a "search engine" box.
The left one is the URL box.
You are typing in the right most box!
Move to the left!
On 6/2/19 3:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 6/2/19 2:35 AM, Beartooth wrote:
Second, man:/ brings me a sackload of stuff not from the man pages -- and again, that sackload seems to be covered all over with googleness, which disimproves my digestion.
Ahah!!!
I see your problem.
In konqueror there ar 2, count them 2, boxes you can enter at the top of the screen.
The right one is a "search engine" box.
The left one is the URL box.
You are typing in the right most box!
Move to the left!
I foolishly tried to include an image file in one of my responses.
Anyway.... Here is what it should look like both good and bad
BAD - https://drive.google.com/file/d/15-zvw7aLG-23BbVD0PfM8rOBm38BfQLb/view?usp=s...
GOOD - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jtfOXKcSpDU8bGbDVOvh_hR1jK4M7knY/view?usp=s...
OK, I get a lot of Chinese since, well, I'm in Taiwan.
On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 12:12:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
I foolishly tried to include an image file in one of my responses.
Anyway.... Here is what it should look like both good and bad
BAD - https://drive.google.com/file/d/15-zvw7aLG-23BbVD0PfM8rOBm38BfQLb/view?
usp=sharing
GOOD - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jtfOXKcSpDU8bGbDVOvh_hR1jK4M7knY/view?
usp=sharing
OK, I get a lot of Chinese since, well, I'm in Taiwan.
The good one certainly looks a lot better -- but doesn't do anything if I click on one of the entries. Is that expected behavior, or have I done something wrong?
On 6/3/19 2:24 AM, Beartooth wrote:
The good one certainly looks a lot better -- but doesn't do anything if I click on one of the entries. Is that expected behavior, or have I done something wrong?
Are you saying you clicked on the Image File I posted? If you did, of course nothing will happen.
Or, are you saying you brought up konqueror on your system, typed "man:/" in the left box, got the same list and then clicked on "Section 1" and didn't get a new page with "Index for Section 1: User Commands" and a list of commands.
On 6/3/19 2:24 AM, Beartooth wrote:
The good one certainly looks a lot better
Here is a video of my desktop showing the way you should see it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Bgjg3ICBwVGDIGJAK62oRrHIaefm9pa/view?usp=s...
On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 15:18:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 6/3/19 2:24 AM, Beartooth wrote:
The good one certainly looks a lot better
Here is a video of my desktop showing the way you should see it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Bgjg3ICBwVGDIGJAK62oRrHIaefm9pa/view?
usp=sharing
OK, many thanks! I think I must have been mindlessly clicking on a still image of a real link.