Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
Many thanks, -T
On 10/29/22 01:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
They aren't defunct. The files are eventually moved to archive and the mirror manager is reconfigured to point there. So there are less active mirrors for the content, but you can still access all the way back to Fedora Core 1.
On 10/29/22 01:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
They aren't defunct. The files are eventually moved to archive and the mirror manager is reconfigured to point there. So there are less active mirrors for the content, but you can still access all the way back to Fedora Core 1.
With `--releasever` or do I have to get fancy?
On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 01:36:16 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
They aren't defunct. The files are eventually moved to archive and the mirror manager is reconfigured to point there. So there are less active mirrors for the content, but you can still access all the way back to Fedora Core 1.
With `--releasever` or do I have to get fancy?
As Samuel said, that should work, because the usage is so low that it just picks it up from the archive by treating it as a repo. But, eventually library incompatibilities will show up, because every new version of Fedora has underlying changes that move it further away from the original Fedora you are trying to import from. Your best bet is to use the src.rpm, and tweak the dependencies, and build it locally so it picks up later versions. That will last longer, but eventually it will require code changes in order to build with newer libraries, so you will become, to some extent, a source code maintainer for wine.
I think you could build a specific wine version in a container with its dependencies, and as long as it runs on the same processor architecture, it should not need to be updated. But, my knowledge of containers is miniscule, so I could be wrong. It might make calls to the underlying system libraries, or the container interface could change. Maybe just rebuilding the container would take care of those, though. There have been applications that have gone obsolete in the past that I wanted to hang onto, that I considered this, but in the end I just moved to a currently packaged substitute because of the work involved. I needed the pulseaudio-equalizer but it went obsolete with the python2 retirement. I tweaked and built locally, but it became just too much with library changes, and fortunately pipewire arrived with easyeffects and its equalizer.
Another alternative would be to freeze an older system with the configuration you want, keep it offline except when you need its functionality, and have a current system for everything else. When you need it, connect and share it via something like ssh, and run what you need on that system, and bring the results back to the current system when done.
On 10/29/22 01:36, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
They aren't defunct. The files are eventually moved to archive and the mirror manager is reconfigured to point there. So there are less active mirrors for the content, but you can still access all the way back to Fedora Core 1.
With `--releasever` or do I have to get fancy?
As long as your repo configs point to the mirror manager (which is the default) instead of a specific site, that will work.
On 10/29/22 10:49, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:36, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/29/22 01:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
They aren't defunct. The files are eventually moved to archive and the mirror manager is reconfigured to point there. So there are less active mirrors for the content, but you can still access all the way back to Fedora Core 1.
With `--releasever` or do I have to get fancy?
As long as your repo configs point to the mirror manager (which is the default) instead of a specific site, that will work.
Thank you!
On 29 Oct 2022 at 1:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
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Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
I had issues the Fedora wine in repo, so add the winehq version. winehq-devel-7.19-1.1.x86_64
Think the fedora version worked for me up to 7.11, but then 7.12 had issues with main program I use. After going to the winehq version, haven't had any real issue. Was one version that had an issue that caused scroll bar not to work on all panels, but scroll wheel did. Then quickly found fix for issue, and next release had it fixed.
Not sure if the wine in regular repos have been updated since the 7.12.
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On 10/29/22 01:34, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:
On 29 Oct 2022 at 1:19, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
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Hi All,
I have to dig out Wine version 6 from Fedora 35's repo (Wine 7 is an absolute disaster).
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option? How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
I had issues the Fedora wine in repo, so add the winehq version. winehq-devel-7.19-1.1.x86_64
Think the fedora version worked for me up to 7.11, but then 7.12 had issues with main program I use. After going to the winehq version, haven't had any real issue. Was one version that had an issue that caused scroll bar not to work on all panels, but scroll wheel did. Then quickly found fix for issue, and next release had it fixed.
Not sure if the wine in regular repos have been updated since the 7.12.
I will try "upstream" on one of my Fedora VM's I use for test.
I really, really like to stay on the Fedora repo. I am really surprised that our team of testers even let Wine 7 out the door.
On 10/29/22 4:19 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Question: how long will I be able to use the dnf's `--releasever=35` option?
Pretty sure they're archived all the way back to Core 1, in perpetuity.
How long are the defunct repo's maintained?
See above.
Thanks, -srw
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