Seriously now, how do I switch among news servers in pan? FC6.
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:04:34 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
Seriously now, how do I switch among news servers in pan? FC6.
With "new" pan you don't need to. All servers' groups are mushed together in one big list. When you read a particular newsgroup, pan contacts the appropriate server.
(I'm still getting used to it.)
--Jack
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:22:51 +0000, Jack Spaar wrote:
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:04:34 +0000, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
Seriously now, how do I switch among news servers in pan? FC6.
With "new" pan you don't need to. All servers' groups are mushed together in one big list. When you read a particular newsgroup, pan contacts the appropriate server.
(I'm still getting used to it.)
--Jack
I just realized that. I misspelled my second news server and it wasn't showing up. Apologies.
Amadeus W.M:
Seriously now, how do I switch among news servers in pan? FC6.
Jack Spaar:
With "new" pan you don't need to. All servers' groups are mushed together in one big list. When you read a particular newsgroup, pan contacts the appropriate server.
(I'm still getting used to it.)
I've seen other news clients work that way, and they made a right pig's breakfast of things when the same group was available on different servers, with the same messages but with different article numbers or message IDs, more so if a server didn't have all of the messages that you wanted to read (you didn't have a way to manually choose the server that you wanted, to try and work around it).
Does Pan get that right?
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:06:13 +1030, Tim wrote:
I've seen other news clients work that way, and they made a right pig's breakfast of things when the same group was available on different servers, with the same messages but with different article numbers or message IDs, more so if a server didn't have all of the messages that you wanted to read (you didn't have a way to manually choose the server that you wanted, to try and work around it).
Does Pan get that right?
I can't say if pan gets that right (is there *any* way to get cross-server article re-indexing right?)
Pan does have a priority scheme where you rank each server as either primary or fallback. But nothing stops you from designating two primary servers for a particular group, and Zeus only knows what happens when they disagree.
--Jack
Jack Spaar wrote:
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:06:13 +1030, Tim wrote:
I've seen other news clients work that way, and they made a right pig's breakfast of things when the same group was available on different servers, with the same messages but with different article numbers or message IDs, more so if a server didn't have all of the messages that you wanted to read (you didn't have a way to manually choose the server that you wanted, to try and work around it).
Does Pan get that right?
I can't say if pan gets that right (is there *any* way to get cross-server article re-indexing right?)
Pan does have a priority scheme where you rank each server as either primary or fallback. But nothing stops you from designating two primary servers for a particular group, and Zeus only knows what happens when they disagree.
--Jack
Since the primary/fallback thing doesn't work for me, I'll share what I did.
First I configured pan with "news_server_1" and then shut it down. I then renamed the ".pan2" directory to "pan2_server1". Next I started pan again and configured "news_server_2", shut it down, and renamed ".pan2" to "pan2_server2". Now I can select a news server by renaming either "pan2_server1" or "pan2_server2" to ".pan2", and starting pan. When I'm done, I rename .pan2 back to the original name. A simple script makes this all transparent.
Hope this helps someone.
--
John
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:32:54 -0800, John Wendel wrote:
Since the primary/fallback thing doesn't work for me, I'll share what I did.
First I configured pan with "news_server_1" and then shut it down. I then renamed the ".pan2" directory to "pan2_server1". Next I started pan again and configured "news_server_2", shut it down, and renamed ".pan2" to "pan2_server2". Now I can select a news server by renaming either "pan2_server1" or "pan2_server2" to ".pan2", and starting pan. When I'm done, I rename .pan2 back to the original name. A simple script makes this all transparent.
That's a useful idea. For that matter you could set the PAN_HOME environment variable instead of changing the .pan2 directory name:
$ PAN_HOME=~/pan2_server1 pan and $ PAN_HOME=~/pan2_server2 pan
6 of 1... --Jack
Jack Spaar wrote:
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:32:54 -0800, John Wendel wrote:
Since the primary/fallback thing doesn't work for me, I'll share what I did.
First I configured pan with "news_server_1" and then shut it down. I then renamed the ".pan2" directory to "pan2_server1". Next I started pan again and configured "news_server_2", shut it down, and renamed ".pan2" to "pan2_server2". Now I can select a news server by renaming either "pan2_server1" or "pan2_server2" to ".pan2", and starting pan. When I'm done, I rename .pan2 back to the original name. A simple script makes this all transparent.
That's a useful idea. For that matter you could set the PAN_HOME environment variable instead of changing the .pan2 directory name:
$ PAN_HOME=~/pan2_server1 pan and $ PAN_HOME=~/pan2_server2 pan
6 of 1... --Jack
Thanks for the tip, I wasn't aware of $PAN_HOME (time to RTFM). Much better than renaming the files.
I've been trying to figure out how to run 2 copies of pan, maybe this is the answer. I'll definitely try it.
Thanks
John