I have two F-19/64 computers with Firefox 22 that want "Java Runtime Environment" in order to access http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/crossword/ and several others. It appears that java openjdk is installed?
[root@box10 bobg]# yum install java-1.*-openjdk Loaded plugins: langpacks Package 1:java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.25-2.3.10.4.fc19.x86_64 already installed and latest version Package 1:java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0.0-0.9.b89.fc19.x86_64 already installed and latest version Nothing to do
I even tried replacing Firefox 22 with 21 but apparentlythe requires replacing the hidden configuration files also and I didn't want to do that so put FF-22 back. I also hoped to get rid of pdf problems by using RR-21, but that's another query I guess.
Is there a solution to the Java JDK problem?
Bob
On 07/22/2013 05:32 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
I have two F-19/64 computers with Firefox 22 that want "Java Runtime Environment" in order to access http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/crossword/ and several others. It appears that java openjdk is installed?
[root@box10 bobg]# yum install java-1.*-openjdk Loaded plugins: langpacks Package 1:java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.25-2.3.10.4.fc19.x86_64 already installed and latest version Package 1:java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0.0-0.9.b89.fc19.x86_64 already installed and latest version Nothing to do
I even tried replacing Firefox 22 with 21 but apparentlythe requires replacing the hidden configuration files also and I didn't want to do that so put FF-22 back. I also hoped to get rid of pdf problems by using RR-21, but that's another query I guess.
Is there a solution to the Java JDK problem?
Bob
plugin and javaws are in icedtea-web package, so please install it, the page will then work for you :) Also please remove java-1.8.0-openjdk unless you know what you are doing. It is experimental beta package :)
J.
On 22/07/13 12:44, Jiri Vanek wrote:
plugin and javaws are in icedtea-web package, so please install it, the page will then work for you :) Also please remove java-1.8.0-openjdk unless you know what you are doing. It is experimental beta package :)
I did: root@box10 bobg]# yum install icedtea-web Restarted Firefox, rebooted, the jave jdk is still not recognized.
Earlier I tried yum remove java jdk and it wanted to take Libreoffice as a dependency! I can do that and re-install it but stopped. Perhaps that is necessary?
Thanks,
Bob
On 22.07.2013 19:11, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 22/07/13 12:44, Jiri Vanek wrote:
plugin and javaws are in icedtea-web package, so please install it, the page will then work for you :) Also please remove java-1.8.0-openjdk unless you know what you are doing. It is experimental beta package :)
I did: root@box10 bobg]# yum install icedtea-web Restarted Firefox, rebooted, the jave jdk is still not recognized.
Earlier I tried yum remove java jdk and it wanted to take Libreoffice as a dependency! I can do that and re-install it but stopped. Perhaps that is necessary?
Thanks,
Bob
€ alternatives --list | grep plugin € alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
€ ll /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so … /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 € ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 … /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so € rpm -qf /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so icedtea-web-1.4-2.fc19.x86_64
poma
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
I have two F-19/64 computers with Firefox 22 that want "Java Runtime Environment" in order to access http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/crossword/ and several others. It appears that java openjdk is installed?
The JRE is just the Java (OpenJDK) runtime to run Java apps, desktop apps, and server apps, but not applets. For applets you need to web browser plugin. The web browser plugin is provided by the package Icedtea-web.
I know where your confusion comes from: in the Windows world, "installing Java" gets you the JRE + the browser plug-in, which is essentially a part of the JRE. Well on Linux it's not, because when Sun open sourced Java under a GPL license back in 2006 creating the OpenJDK project, they did not include the browser plugin component.
I have argued with the JRE developers that Icedtea-web is counter-intuitive and that at least an alias of "openjdk-plugin" should be used, but met with staunch opposition from the Icedtea devs.... so there...
Install icedtea-web. FC
On 22/07/13 14:56, poma wrote:
€ alternatives --list | grep plugin € alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
€ ll /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so … /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 € ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 … /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so € rpm -qf /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so icedtea-web-1.4-2.fc19.x86_64
poma
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
* Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 15:28]:
On 22/07/13 14:56, poma wrote:
€ alternatives --list | grep plugin € alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
€ ll /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so … /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 € ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 … /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so € rpm -qf /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so icedtea-web-1.4-2.fc19.x86_64
poma
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
Hi Bob,
Looks like it is installed fine. What does about:plugins in Firefox display?
Cheers, Deepak
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On 22/07/13 15:44, Deepak Bhole wrote:
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
Hi Bob,
Looks like it is installed fine. What does about:plugins in Firefox display?
Cheers, Deepak
"No enabled plugins found"
So, for some reason Firefox doesn't see it. Perhaps I've missed an installation step?
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* Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 15:51]:
On 22/07/13 15:44, Deepak Bhole wrote:
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
Hi Bob,
Looks like it is installed fine. What does about:plugins in Firefox display?
Cheers, Deepak
"No enabled plugins found"
So, for some reason Firefox doesn't see it. Perhaps I've missed an installation step?
Ah, just realized that the link above is not from the plugins directory.
What does 'ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/' show?
Deepak
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On 22.07.2013 21:28, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 22/07/13 14:56, poma wrote:
€ alternatives --list | grep plugin € alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
€ ll /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so … /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 € ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 … /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so € rpm -qf /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so icedtea-web-1.4-2.fc19.x86_64
poma
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
If € grep IcedTea $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/<PROFILE>/pluginreg.dat is empty, close Firefox and € rm $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/<PROFILE>/pluginreg.dat Then start Firefox to recreate 'pluginreg.dat' and check again, € grep IcedTea $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/<PROFILE>/pluginreg.dat 'about:plugins' reads from that file.
poma
On 22/07/13 16:00, Deepak Bhole wrote:
- Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 15:51]:
On 22/07/13 15:44, Deepak Bhole wrote:
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
Hi Bob,
Looks like it is installed fine. What does about:plugins in Firefox display?
Cheers, Deepak
"No enabled plugins found"
So, for some reason Firefox doesn't see it. Perhaps I've missed an installation step?
Ah, just realized that the link above is not from the plugins directory.
What does 'ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/' show?
Deepak
[root@box10 bobg]# ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 41 Jul 22 04:37 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 41 Jul 22 12:55 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
* Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 16:10]:
On 22/07/13 16:00, Deepak Bhole wrote:
- Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 15:51]:
On 22/07/13 15:44, Deepak Bhole wrote:
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
Hi Bob,
Looks like it is installed fine. What does about:plugins in Firefox display?
Cheers, Deepak
"No enabled plugins found"
So, for some reason Firefox doesn't see it. Perhaps I've missed an installation step?
Ah, just realized that the link above is not from the plugins directory.
What does 'ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/' show?
Deepak
[root@box10 bobg]# ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 41 Jul 22 04:37 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 41 Jul 22 12:55 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
Looks like it is in place. Couple of things to try next. Can you paste the output of 'rpm -qV icedtea-web'?
Next, delete pluginreg.dat, close all FF instances and restart it from commandline: ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox 2>&1 | tee plugin.log
and try about:plugins again (it will be blank, I don't expect otherwise) and then can you please post plugin.log?
Deepak
On 22/07/13 16:26, Deepak Bhole wrote:
- Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 16:10]:
On 22/07/13 16:00, Deepak Bhole wrote:
- Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 15:51]:
On 22/07/13 15:44, Deepak Bhole wrote:
This is what I have:
[root@box10 bobg]# ll /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 27 Jul 22 12:55 /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it. Should it show up in FF preferneces as a plug-in? There's nothing there ...
Hi Bob,
Looks like it is installed fine. What does about:plugins in Firefox display?
Cheers, Deepak
"No enabled plugins found"
So, for some reason Firefox doesn't see it. Perhaps I've missed an installation step?
Ah, just realized that the link above is not from the plugins directory.
What does 'ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/' show?
Deepak
[root@box10 bobg]# ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 41 Jul 22 04:37 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 41 Jul 22 12:55 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
Looks like it is in place. Couple of things to try next. Can you paste the output of 'rpm -qV icedtea-web'?
Next, delete pluginreg.dat, close all FF instances and restart it from commandline: ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox 2>&1 | tee plugin.log
and try about:plugins again (it will be blank, I don't expect otherwise) and then can you please post plugin.log?
Deepak
Ok, that produces a list of enabled plugins:
Enabled plugins
Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck ------------------------------------------------------------------------
IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.4 (fedora-2.fc19-x86_64))
File: IcedTeaPlugin.so Path: /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so Version: State: Enabled The IcedTea-Web Plugin executes Java applets.
MIME Type Description Suffixes application/x-java-vm IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.3 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.4 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.5 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.6 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;version=1.7 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.7.0_50 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.3 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.4 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.5 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.6 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;version=1.7 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.7.0_50 IcedTea class,jar application/x-java-vm-npruntime IcedTea
Shockwave Flash
File: libflashplayer.so Path: /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so Version: 11,2,202,297 State: Enabled Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
MIME Type Description Suffixes application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl
NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.4.4
File: npwrapper.so Path: /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/npwrapper.so Version: State: Enabled nspluginwrapper is a cross-platform NPAPI plugin viewer, in particular for linux/i386 plugins. This beta software is available under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
MIME Type Description Suffixes unknown/mime-type Do not open none
However if I bring Firefox up from the usual XFCE icon I have there are no plugins?
* Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 16:43]:
On 22/07/13 16:26, Deepak Bhole wrote:
- Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 16:10]:
On 22/07/13 16:00, Deepak Bhole wrote:
- Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgoodwin@wildblue.net [2013-07-22 15:51]:
On 22/07/13 15:44, Deepak Bhole wrote:
This is what I have:
[ ... ]
Deepak
Ok, that produces a list of enabled plugins:
Excellent, now it is getting somewhere. So the XFCE launcher may be launching it with a different plugin directory, or it may be launching a different copy of ff altogether.
Can you post the output of: 1. ps auxww | grep firefox 2. ps eww <PID>
<PID> is the pid of the ff process. One of the results from command #1 will be the process you launched which will have the PID beside it. If in doubt, run the ps eww for each of the pids from #1 and post.
Cheers, Deepak
On 22/07/13 16:59, Deepak Bhole wrote:
Excellent, now it is getting somewhere. So the XFCE launcher may be launching it with a different plugin directory, or it may be launching a different copy of ff altogether.
Can you post the output of:
- ps auxww | grep firefox
- ps eww <PID>
<PID> is the pid of the ff process. One of the results from command #1 will be the process you launched which will have the PID beside it. If in doubt, run the ps eww for each of the pids from #1 and post.
Cheers, Deepak
Ok, it appears to be working normally now. In the confusion of going from FF-22 to FF-21 and back to FF-22 I had another installation of Firefox that the XFCE icon pointed to. Fixing that yields a Firefox-22 with plugins enabled.
Thanks much to everyone, with this information I ahould be able to find the problem in the other Fedora 19 box which no doubt has missing plugins too. Why I dunno ...
Tnx,
Bob