I am slowly going nuts here!
Is ther anywhere a clear explanation of how to get the BBC News player working on a 64bit Fedora system with Firefox?
I have installed all the gxine stuff from livna which (according to the blogs I've read) should handle any windows media stream.. I've also got RealPlayer 10 installed. But neither of them does anything when embedded in Firefox!
I never had this problem with Ubuntu; but I am *this* close to slinging Fedora away; since installing F7 I've had more problems than in years of any other Linux - including Fedora 1 to 6.
I've even resorted to installing firefox-32. And it made sod-all difference.
At my wits' end.......
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:24:30 +0100 "John Lagrue" jlagrue@gmail.com wrote:
I've even resorted to installing firefox-32. And it made sod-all difference.
Merely installing the 32 bit version doesn't actually make it run the 32 bit version - the "firefox" shell script always runs the 64 bit version if it finds it on the system.
There is supposed to be some kind of magic environment variable you can set to force it to run 32 bit, but I take a different approach - I edit the /usr/bin/firefox script and change all "lib64" strings in it to "wubba-wubba-wubba", then it can't find the "wubba-wubba-wubba" version, so it is willing to run the 32 bit version instead :-).
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 19:32 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:24:30 +0100 "John Lagrue" jlagrue@gmail.com wrote:
I've even resorted to installing firefox-32. And it made sod-all difference.
Merely installing the 32 bit version doesn't actually make it run the 32 bit version - the "firefox" shell script always runs the 64 bit version if it finds it on the system.
There is supposed to be some kind of magic environment variable you can set to force it to run 32 bit, but I take a different approach - I edit the /usr/bin/firefox script and change all "lib64" strings in it to "wubba-wubba-wubba", then it can't find the "wubba-wubba-wubba" version, so it is willing to run the 32 bit version instead :-).
The package "firefox-32" installs a command called "firefox-32" and it does invoke 32bit firefox, unless for some strange reason Adobe has gotten flash to work with 64bit firefox...'cause I can see flash on my 64bit workstation.
--Tim
On 03/08/07, RavenOak ravenoak@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 19:32 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:24:30 +0100 "John Lagrue" jlagrue@gmail.com wrote:
I've even resorted to installing firefox-32. And it made sod-all difference.
Merely installing the 32 bit version doesn't actually make it run the 32 bit version - the "firefox" shell script always runs the 64 bit version if it finds it on the system.
There is supposed to be some kind of magic environment variable you can set to force it to run 32 bit, but I take a different approach - I edit the /usr/bin/firefox script and change all "lib64" strings in it to "wubba-wubba-wubba", then it can't find the "wubba-wubba-wubba" version, so it is willing to run the 32 bit version instead :-).
The package "firefox-32" installs a command called "firefox-32" and it does invoke 32bit firefox, unless for some strange reason Adobe has gotten flash to work with 64bit firefox...'cause I can see flash on my 64bit workstation.
I don't have a problem with Flash. nspluginwrapper works a treat. I just can't get ***ing video working from the BBC site.
JDL
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:59:08 +0100 "John Lagrue" jlagrue@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have a problem with Flash. nspluginwrapper works a treat. I just can't get ***ing video working from the BBC site.
Well, I've just done some experimenting with BBC videos and found they seem to have hired the same butt-heads that CNN did to revamp their video web support.
I did eventually get at least one video to play, but it wasn't easy. Running 32 bit firefox I did this:
1. I have to have the user agent switcher plugin in firefox so I can lie to their web server and claim to be netscape. Without that, all I get are 403 Forbidden messages.
2. After that, I was finally able to get through to their web site, and after a bit of experimentation in the video preferences page I get I picked "standard" speed and "real player" over windows media.
3. That finally gets me to what claims to be a media player, but no media ever plays, however if I right click in the black video window, I get an option "play with kplayer", and if I pick that, I get a new kplayer window and the video actually plays!
P.S. I already have installed on my system just about every media player and multi-media support rpm from the livna repo, as well as all the misc windows codecs in the /usr/lib/codecs location mplayer will look for them. No doubt some of that stuff contributes to my ability to finally play the video, but I have no idea exactly which bit might be involved.
Well, I've just done some experimenting with BBC videos and found they seem to have hired the same butt-heads that CNN did to revamp their video web support.
Actually they hired a former microsoft senior exec from the microsoft windows media people. That aside the BBC does usually go to some lengths to try and keep good cross platform support as befits its state funding and constitution.
From the UK (the BBC site non UK is somewhat different as they have to
keep some of the video content UK only to keep the owners happy, or so they can sell it to you ;)) it seems to just work for me both with realplayer and the realvideo feeds and with mplayer and the windows media stuff.
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 00:59 +0100, John Lagrue wrote:
On 03/08/07, RavenOak ravenoak@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 19:32 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:24:30 +0100 "John Lagrue" jlagrue@gmail.com wrote:
I've even resorted to installing firefox-32. And it made sod-all difference.
Merely installing the 32 bit version doesn't actually make it run the 32 bit version - the "firefox" shell script always runs the 64 bit version if it finds it on the system.
There is supposed to be some kind of magic environment variable you can set to force it to run 32 bit, but I take a different approach - I edit the /usr/bin/firefox script and change all "lib64" strings in it to "wubba-wubba-wubba", then it can't find the "wubba-wubba-wubba" version, so it is willing to run the 32 bit version instead :-).
The package "firefox-32" installs a command called "firefox-32" and it does invoke 32bit firefox, unless for some strange reason Adobe has gotten flash to work with 64bit firefox...'cause I can see flash on my 64bit workstation.
I don't have a problem with Flash. nspluginwrapper works a treat. I just can't get ***ing video working from the BBC site.
JDL
Hi
I seem to have got the BBC working OK F7, 64 bit Firefox It really was running 64 bit version !!!!!! Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64;
Some of this is from notes to myself!!!!!!!!!!!
Use RealPlayer (nphelix) + nspluginwrapper for BBC weather - remember the extra compat-libstdc++-33
Details of config
pagham ~ 997# uname -a Linux pagham 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 #1 SMP Wed May 23 22:47:07 EDT 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux pagham ~ 998# rpm -qa|grep -i firefox firefox-devel-2.0.0.3-4.fc7.i386 firefox-2.0.0.3-4.fc7.i386 firefox-devel-2.0.0.3-4.fc7.x86_64 firefox-2.0.0.3-4.fc7.x86_64
######################################### pagham plugins 1001# pwd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins pagham plugins 1002# ls libflashplayer.so nphelix.so nphelix.xpt nppdf.so ############ pagham plugins 1004# pwd /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins pagham plugins 1005# ls libvlcplugin.so mplayerplug-in.so npwrapper.nppdf.so mplayerplug-in-dvx.so mplayerplug-in-wmp.so npwrapper.so mplayerplug-in-qt.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so mplayerplug-in-rm.so npwrapper.nphelix.so ############
My current status ########################### Multimedia Summary Use vlc + mozilla-vlc x86-64 for seasprite sports streaming Use RealPlayer (nphelix) + nspluginwrapper for BBC weather - remember the extra compat-libstdc++-33 Acroread + nspluginwrapper if required Flash + nspluginwrapper mplayer + mplayerplug-in are x86-64 Give up on 64 bit Java plugins at present !!
Hope this is some use !!
John