I don't know if this is a gnome issue or not, but it has been around since at least RH 9, and I now see it still in Fedora Core 2.
If one edits network parameters using the gui applet (system-network-config?), the desktop basically stops working afterwards, and no gui applets open from the menu until the system is restarted.
I thought it was a quirk of RH 9, or perhaps the version of gnome RH 9 uses, but I now see exactly the same behavior in Fedora Core 2, which I just installed for the first time.
I'm surprised that this behavior still persists, after all the water that has passed under the bridge since RH 9.
What's going on? Is there a user fix?
Basil
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Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Basil Copeland um 23:13:
If one edits network parameters using the gui applet (system-network-config?), the desktop basically stops working afterwards, and no gui applets open from the menu until the system is restarted.
Basil
You change the hostname? Then trouble running X is not surprising. Or what else do you change?
Alexander
Yes, I change the hostname. It is one of the first things I do with a fresh install (change it from "localhost.localdomain").
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Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Basil Copeland um 23:13:
If one edits network parameters using the gui
applet
(system-network-config?), the desktop basically
stops
working afterwards, and no gui applets open from
the
menu until the system is restarted.
Basil
You change the hostname? Then trouble running X is not surprising. Or what else do you change?
Alexander
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT), Basil Copeland blcjr@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes, I change the hostname. It is one of the first things I do with a fresh install (change it from "localhost.localdomain").
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Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Basil Copeland um 23:13:
If one edits network parameters using the gui
applet
(system-network-config?), the desktop basically
stops
working afterwards, and no gui applets open from
the
menu until the system is restarted.
Basil
You change the hostname? Then trouble running X is not surprising. Or what else do you change?
Alexander
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you need to restart X if you change the hostname, however, lets not make an excuse for the bug in the gui tool, which is if you allow people to change the hostname using it, should at least warn the consequencies.
Yang
Thanks to both of you for clearing this up for me.
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT), Basil Copeland blcjr@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes, I change the hostname. It is one of the
first
things I do with a fresh install (change it from "localhost.localdomain").
--- Alexander Dalloz
alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de wrote:
Am Mi, den 29.09.2004 schrieb Basil Copeland um 23:13:
If one edits network parameters using the gui
applet
(system-network-config?), the desktop
basically
stops
working afterwards, and no gui applets open
from
the
menu until the system is restarted.
Basil
You change the hostname? Then trouble running X
is
not surprising. Or what else do you change?
Alexander
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0.44,
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you need to restart X if you change the hostname, however, lets not make an excuse for the bug in the gui tool, which is if you allow people to change the hostname using it, should at least warn the consequencies.
Yang
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[Framingham-Vball] Men's C on Jan 2 @ LSBasil Copeland wrote:
Thanks to both of you for clearing this up for me.
In particular, don't change the name of the loopback device (127.0.0.1). At most you can add an alias for it if you don't have any other network, but it needs to still answer to the name localhost for certain stuff to work.
Right. This is one it would never occur to me to change. But thanks for the warning anyway.
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[Framingham-Vball] Men's C on Jan 2 @ LSBasil Copeland wrote:
Thanks to both of you for clearing this up for me.
In particular, don't change the name of the loopback device (127.0.0.1). At most you can add an alias for it if you don't have any other network, but it needs to still answer to the name localhost for certain stuff to work.
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Basil Copeland said:
Yes, I change the hostname. It is one of the first things I do with a fresh install (change it from "localhost.localdomain").
It would be easier to just set the hostname during the install.
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 14:13 -0700, Basil Copeland wrote:
I don't know if this is a gnome issue or not, but it has been around since at least RH 9, and I now see it still in Fedora Core 2.
Yes it is.
If one edits network parameters using the gui applet (system-network-config?), the desktop basically stops working afterwards, and no gui applets open from the menu until the system is restarted.
As far as I can tell there is only one parameter that makes the system screwy, and that is changing it's localhost/loopback hostname.
I thought it was a quirk of RH 9, or perhaps the version of gnome RH 9 uses, but I now see exactly the same behaviour in Fedora Core 2, which I just installed for the first time.
I'm surprised that this behaviour still persists, after all the water that has passed under the bridge since RH 9.
What's going on? Is there a user fix?
From rom what I can tell, GNOME uses TCP/hostname for a lot of it's work, it picks up this hostname at logon, if you then change the hostname and then it can no longer send the details to itself. If that makes sense.
It's best to avoid changing the systems hostname, unless you intend to logout/reboot :)