Moving from one to another computer may require a complete reload of F7. Not a problem and I have already done it once just to prove a point. The DVD of F7 loads on the other computer just fine. It has the nVIDIA pointer problem but now we know how to fix.
I just looked and all there appears to be is the basic i386 and i686-64 DVD's on the Red Hat web page. Is there someplace I could d/l all the updates to F7 on a cd-rom iso? The re-spin of F7 will appear some day. Has the idea of a cd with all the updates been thought of?
I can look at /var/log/yum.log and there all my updates and d/l are listed. I will get that as a file and print it for the near future. I sure don't need all the kernel's just the latest one. But I want all the udev's :-)
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 15:21 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
Is there someplace I could d/l all the updates to F7 on a cd-rom iso?
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
on 8/28/2007 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 15:21 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
Is there someplace I could d/l all the updates to F7 on a cd-rom iso?
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
I am *not* a real Fedora person but this is the way that I see Fedora working.
Rawhide, the development branch of Fedora, is on going. When the 'time comes' there is a freeze, several actually, to stabilize things and then a release.
The development goes on, it never really stops.
*No distro* really releases a completely bug-free, try as they might, release. During the last freeze and the release many of these bugs are fixed. That makes for a flood of updates. I think that is a great system.
Now. Something to think about here. A 700Gig iso of all the *current* updates? And I only have installed, and need a 100M package. Do I d/l the iso and burn the CD for one package? Or do I - yum update <package> hmmm... 8-)
David Boles wrote:
on 8/28/2007 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 15:21 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
Is there someplace I could d/l all the updates to F7 on a cd-rom iso?
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
I am *not* a real Fedora person but this is the way that I see Fedora working.
Rawhide, the development branch of Fedora, is on going. When the 'time comes' there is a freeze, several actually, to stabilize things and then a release.
The development goes on, it never really stops.
*No distro* really releases a completely bug-free, try as they might, release. During the last freeze and the release many of these bugs are fixed. That makes for a flood of updates. I think that is a great system.
Now. Something to think about here. A 700Gig iso of all the *current* updates? And I only have installed, and need a 100M package. Do I d/l the iso and burn the CD for one package? Or do I - yum update <package> hmmm... 8-)
That is not the use I have. I want to not have to yum 2,000 updates to F7 that I load tomorrow. How do I do this?
On 29/08/2007, Karl Larsen k5di@zianet.com wrote:
That is not the use I have. I want to not have to yum 2,000 updates
to F7 that I load tomorrow. How do I do this?
What you're talking about is a 'respin'. I spent a little time on Google and couldn't find any current Fedora 7 respins[1]. However if you wanted to create your own the following might be useful:
http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/
There's also Fedora Unity: http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/faq
[1] Lots of latent respin projects but no actual respins
Ian Malone wrote:
On 29/08/2007, Karl Larsen k5di@zianet.com wrote:
That is not the use I have. I want to not have to yum 2,000 updates
to F7 that I load tomorrow. How do I do this?
What you're talking about is a 'respin'. I spent a little time on Google and couldn't find any current Fedora 7 respins[1]. However if you wanted to create your own the following might be useful:
http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/
There's also Fedora Unity: http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/faq
[1] Lots of latent respin projects but no actual respins
I expect it is not simple. And there is nothing simple about RPM and such a project would be all about RPM :-\
Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 15:21 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
Is there someplace I could d/l all the updates to F7 on a cd-rom iso?
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
It would have to be done in a smart way. Delete from the list all the kernel updates but the last for example.
Tim:
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
Karl Larsen:
It would have to be done in a smart way. Delete from the list all the kernel updates but the last for example.
That example wasn't a gig of files including three versions of the same thing, etc. It was how much was downloaded to update one system. And that wasn't a system with everything installed, it had not much more than the basic install.
Tim wrote:
Tim:
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
Karl Larsen:
It would have to be done in a smart way. Delete from the list all the kernel updates but the last for example.
That example wasn't a gig of files including three versions of the same thing, etc. It was how much was downloaded to update one system. And that wasn't a system with everything installed, it had not much more than the basic install.
Hi Tim I am yumming Punji and will do a lot of reading. My slow DSL modem is not good but once I get /etc/pungi.conf proper I can make a new .iso of this version of (respin of) F7. The yum of punji brought along a lot of dependants.
On 29/08/2007, Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Tim:
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
Karl Larsen:
It would have to be done in a smart way. Delete from the list all the kernel updates but the last for example.
That example wasn't a gig of files including three versions of the same thing, etc. It was how much was downloaded to update one system. And that wasn't a system with everything installed, it had not much more than the basic install.
The point is that you produce a DVD (since F7 is a DVD) with the current RPMs from Updates were they supersede those in Release. A Fedora 7.1 if you will.
Ian Malone wrote:
On 29/08/2007, Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Tim:
I haven't checked on the status of FC7, but prior releases have very quickly ended up with over a gig of updates, sometimes just a few days after release, it seems. More than could fit on a CD-ROM.
Karl Larsen:
It would have to be done in a smart way. Delete from the list all the kernel updates but the last for example.
That example wasn't a gig of files including three versions of the same thing, etc. It was how much was downloaded to update one system. And that wasn't a system with everything installed, it had not much more than the basic install.
The point is that you produce a DVD (since F7 is a DVD) with the current RPMs from Updates were they supersede those in Release. A Fedora 7.1 if you will.
Yes and the tool seems to be punji with rpm and anaconda and a kickstart file I THINK?
The documentation is non-existant. I am looking at https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/pungi/wiki/PungiDocs/RunningPungiI...
and it makes zero sense. My next thing will be punji --help
Tim:
That example wasn't a gig of files including three versions of the same thing, etc. It was how much was downloaded to update one system. And that wasn't a system with everything installed, it had not much more than the basic install.
Ian Malone:
The point is that you produce a DVD (since F7 is a DVD) with the current RPMs from Updates were they supersede those in Release. A Fedora 7.1 if you will.
The original poster mentioned CD, so that's what I went with. The point I was making that getting all the updates, is an awful lot of files. It's less work to just get what you need.
Anyway, this adds another complication: Your update disc is out-of-date rather rapidly. I'd only take this approach if you were going to update a collection of non-networked computers, that you only bothered to update fairly infrequently.
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Tim wrote:
Tim:
That example wasn't a gig of files including three versions of the same thing, etc. It was how much was downloaded to update one system. And that wasn't a system with everything installed, it had not much more than the basic install.
Ian Malone:
The point is that you produce a DVD (since F7 is a DVD) with the current RPMs from Updates were they supersede those in Release. A Fedora 7.1 if you will.
The original poster mentioned CD, so that's what I went with. The point I was making that getting all the updates, is an awful lot of files. It's less work to just get what you need.
Anyway, this adds another complication: Your update disc is out-of-date rather rapidly. I'd only take this approach if you were going to update a collection of non-networked computers, that you only bothered to update fairly infrequently.
Or something on a very slow data connection. I can just imagine how long it would take to get the complete set of F7 updates on dialup. Even if it was a bit stale, it makes for less to download.
alan wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Tim wrote:
Anyway, this adds another complication: Your update disc is out-of-date rather rapidly. I'd only take this approach if you were going to update a collection of non-networked computers, that you only bothered to update fairly infrequently.
Or something on a very slow data connection. I can just imagine how long it would take to get the complete set of F7 updates on dialup. Even if it was a bit stale, it makes for less to download.
I am not sure I follow this - why would downloading a CD image with all the updates, including updates for packages you do not have installed, be a smaller download then downloading the packages you need? If you are going to be updating more then one machine, you can set yum to keep the packages it downloads, and then create a local repo for your local machines. (Or copy the RPMs to a shared directory, and do a yum localupdate to update the other machines.
Mikkel