Some one told me about www.knoppix.org the guy made a CD that will boot to KDE and not touch the hard drive. They suggest 128 MB of ram as it only runs off of the CD and has to run in memory. You can run it with less memory but check the site to see how.
I downloaded the ISO and burned a CD, and it seemed to find everything on my machine. I never thought it would make it through my firewall but I could just hop on the net or use open office. A little slow, but hey your working off the CD drive.
Now you can say "see Linux ain't so bad as Microsoft said"
And when you are done all you need to do is shut down and remove the CD and reboot to what ever is on the hard drive.
Now when FC3 comes out they'll want it installed on their machine.
Tim...
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
Timothy Payne wrote:
Some one told me about www.knoppix.org the guy made a CD that will boot to KDE and not touch the hard drive. They suggest 128 MB of ram as it only runs off of the CD and has to run in memory. You can run it with less memory but check the site to see how.
I downloaded the ISO and burned a CD, and it seemed to find everything on my machine. I never thought it would make it through my firewall but I could just hop on the net or use open office. A little slow, but hey your working off the CD drive.
Now you can say "see Linux ain't so bad as Microsoft said"
And when you are done all you need to do is shut down and remove the CD and reboot to what ever is on the hard drive.
Now when FC3 comes out they'll want it installed on their machine.
Tim...
I'll look at it but the point was, it can be used without touching anything they have installed. Even though with a win98 disk and the command fdisk /mbr they can reinstall windows. With knoppix they don't even do that. The hard drive is left untouched, so it's a zero risk try. I hear "but my windows programs" If you need them, like I do spend $50 for another hard drive and you can have anything you want on the win drive.
Tim...
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 23:12, Brian Chase wrote:
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
Timothy Payne wrote:
Some one told me about www.knoppix.org the guy made a CD that will boot to KDE and not touch the hard drive. They suggest 128 MB of ram as it only runs off of the CD and has to run in memory. You can run it with less memory but check the site to see how.
I downloaded the ISO and burned a CD, and it seemed to find everything on my machine. I never thought it would make it through my firewall but I could just hop on the net or use open office. A little slow, but hey your working off the CD drive.
Now you can say "see Linux ain't so bad as Microsoft said"
And when you are done all you need to do is shut down and remove the CD and reboot to what ever is on the hard drive.
Now when FC3 comes out they'll want it installed on their machine.
Tim...
Mepis is also a live CD and offers the option of installing to hard disk, a much better interface for it.
Timothy Payne wrote:
I'll look at it but the point was, it can be used without touching anything they have installed. Even though with a win98 disk and the command fdisk /mbr they can reinstall windows. With knoppix they don't even do that. The hard drive is left untouched, so it's a zero risk try. I hear "but my windows programs" If you need them, like I do spend $50 for another hard drive and you can have anything you want on the win drive.
Tim...
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 23:12, Brian Chase wrote:
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
Timothy Payne wrote:
Some one told me about www.knoppix.org the guy made a CD that will boot to KDE and not touch the hard drive. They suggest 128 MB of ram as it only runs off of the CD and has to run in memory. You can run it with less memory but check the site to see how.
I downloaded the ISO and burned a CD, and it seemed to find everything on my machine. I never thought it would make it through my firewall but I could just hop on the net or use open office. A little slow, but hey your working off the CD drive.
Now you can say "see Linux ain't so bad as Microsoft said"
And when you are done all you need to do is shut down and remove the CD and reboot to what ever is on the hard drive.
Now when FC3 comes out they'll want it installed on their machine.
Tim...
It's on it's way down, albet at 53kb but I'll be in be in bed when it's done.
T
Thanks,
Tim...
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 00:54, Brian Chase wrote:
Mepis is also a live CD and offers the option of installing to hard disk, a much better interface for it.
Timothy Payne wrote:
I'll look at it but the point was, it can be used without touching anything they have installed. Even though with a win98 disk and the command fdisk /mbr they can reinstall windows. With knoppix they don't even do that. The hard drive is left untouched, so it's a zero risk try. I hear "but my windows programs" If you need them, like I do spend $50 for another hard drive and you can have anything you want on the win drive.
Tim...
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 23:12, Brian Chase wrote:
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
Timothy Payne wrote:
Some one told me about www.knoppix.org the guy made a CD that will boot to KDE and not touch the hard drive. They suggest 128 MB of ram as it only runs off of the CD and has to run in memory. You can run it with less memory but check the site to see how.
I downloaded the ISO and burned a CD, and it seemed to find everything on my machine. I never thought it would make it through my firewall but I could just hop on the net or use open office. A little slow, but hey your working off the CD drive.
Now you can say "see Linux ain't so bad as Microsoft said"
And when you are done all you need to do is shut down and remove the CD and reboot to what ever is on the hard drive.
Now when FC3 comes out they'll want it installed on their machine.
Tim...
Brian Chase wrote:
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
I read a review this morning and this distro is supposed to install as well if you wish to.
Dual boot is an option. I don't have any use for Windows so I don't think about it.
Anybody know of a Windows that runs on a CD/DVD just in case?
Robin Laing wrote:
Brian Chase wrote:
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
I read a review this morning and this distro is supposed to install as well if you wish to.
From the "Funny you should mention" dep't:
I also read, ran and *attempted* to install. I tried both the 2.6.x and 2.4.x options. Neither installed GRUB correctly with a net result of a Win98 partition that still boots and a wiped out FC3RC2 installation. This was obviously on a machine that I can easily reload. The only reason I tried to install it is that the Live CD does, indeed, look nice. (It couldn't detect the Soundblaster SBAWE 64 in that machine but neither can FC3, FC2, FC1, RH7.3 or RH7.2. Works great in Knoppix, just as it did in RH6.0)
The best thing about the fiasco is that FC3RC2 installs just fine from here via NFS if booted with: "linux vnc askmethod".
Dual boot is an option. I don't have any use for Windows so I don't think about it.
Anybody know of a Windows that runs on a CD/DVD just in case?
ROTFLMAO! Can't you just see a shiny new Dell machine with WinXP burned into the plastic side panel?
Robin Laing wrote:
Anybody know of a Windows that runs on a CD/DVD just in case?
Well, there is Windows PE: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/winpreinst/windowspe_tech.mspx
$ you can boot a subset of the Windows operating system from a removable $ disk, which provides network and other resources necessary to install $ and troubleshoot Windows on the desktop or server.
James.
(What *is* the appropriate quote symbol for a Microsoft doc?)
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 17:43 +0000, James Wilkinson wrote:
Robin Laing wrote:
Anybody know of a Windows that runs on a CD/DVD just in case?
Well, there is Windows PE: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/winpreinst/windowspe_tech.mspx
You might also try BartPE, which is a PE + plugins to run any number of additional apps.
There are also a couple of commercial ones such as ERD Commander.
Frank Pineau wrote:
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On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 17:43 +0000, James Wilkinson wrote:
Robin Laing wrote:
Anybody know of a Windows that runs on a CD/DVD just in case?
Well, there is Windows PE: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/winpreinst/windowspe_tech.mspx
You might also try BartPE, which is a PE + plugins to run any number of additional apps.
There are also a couple of commercial ones such as ERD Commander.
I am going to give BartPE a try if I can find a computer with Windows XP on it to make a copy with.
It looks like I am going to be getting a piece of hardware that will require Windows to update/upgrade once or twice a year. I am going to see if the software will run in Wine but I doubt it as it requires control of a comm port.
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 10:10, Robin Laing wrote:
Brian Chase wrote:
I've tried alot of distro's, and my favorite by far for desktop distro's for newbies would be Mepis Linux, check it out, it's like Knoppix, but even easier to install to hard drive and more GUI administration tools.
I read a review this morning and this distro is supposed to install as well if you wish to.
Dual boot is an option. I don't have any use for Windows so I don't think about it.
Anybody know of a Windows that runs on a CD/DVD just in case?
-- Robin Laing
There is a really nice project out there called BartPE. It uses the Windows PreInstallation Environment to run a semi-full version of windows off of the CD/DVD. Its not nearly as flexible as knoppix, but worth looking into
MC
Micheal wrote:
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 10:10, Robin Laing wrote:
There is a really nice project out there called BartPE. It uses the Windows PreInstallation Environment to run a semi-full version of windows off of the CD/DVD. Its not nearly as flexible as knoppix, but worth looking into
MC
Thanks.
This link was provided by someone else on this list yesterday.
I have sent the link to our IS department as well. I going to see if they can make me a copy as I don't use/have XP but we have various site liceneces.