Sorry to bother the fedora list, but I'm not sure where to ask. I have a trial transcript in .ptx format I need to look at. Does anybody know of any tool in Fedora/Linux that can read these?
Thanks,
billo
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:44:20 -0400 William Oliver vendor@billoblog.com wrote:
Sorry to bother the fedora list, but I'm not sure where to ask. I have a trial transcript in .ptx format I need to look at. Does anybody know of any tool in Fedora/Linux that can read these?
I think you need to sharpen your search-foo. :-)
Summary - probably a text file viewable in any text editor, even less.
From https://www.lifewire.com/ptx-file-2622809
Your PTX file may instead be an E-Transcript file. These files are often used to store courtroom hearing transcripts, and can be in either the PTX format or in a self-contained EXE file; the former is normally used so that the file can be sent over email (EXE files are usually blocked by email servers).
When in the PTX format, E-Transcript files can be opened with E-Transcript Manager or for free, though in read-only mode, with E-Transcript Viewer. Since they're probably text-only files, you might also find a text editor like Notepad++ useful in reading the PTX file. The similar .PTZ E-Transcript Bundle files can be opened with these programs too.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:10:59 -0700 stan wrote:
When in the PTX format, E-Transcript files can be opened with E-Transcript Manager or for free, though in read-only mode, with E-Transcript Viewer. Since they're probably text-only files, you might also find a text editor like Notepad++ useful in reading the PTX file. The similar .PTZ E-Transcript Bundle files can be opened with these programs too.
Or if it is some proprietary legal doc format, you might need to install a windows virtual machine so you can run their free windows viewer. Windows virtual machines are handy for this sort of nonsense (I've never gotten wine to successfully run any windows program :-).
On 06/20/2017 12:11 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Or if it is some proprietary legal doc format, you might need to install a windows virtual machine so you can run their free windows viewer. Windows virtual machines are handy for this sort of nonsense (I've never gotten wine to successfully run any windows program :-).
That may be because wine is mostly intended to run games.
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:22:05PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
windows viewer. Windows virtual machines are handy for this sort of nonsense (I've never gotten wine to successfully run any windows program :-).
That may be because wine is mostly intended to run games.
That's certainly not true of Codeweavers, the commercial company which does about two-thirds of the work on Wine (and puts most of that work upstream first).
On Tue, 2017-06-20 at 11:10 -0700, stan wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:44:20 -0400 William Oliver vendor@billoblog.com wrote:
Sorry to bother the fedora list, but I'm not sure where to ask. I have a trial transcript in .ptx format I need to look at. Does anybody know of any tool in Fedora/Linux that can read these?
I think you need to sharpen your search-foo. :-)
Summary - probably a text file viewable in any text editor, even less.
[snip]
Nope. Yeah, I saw that site. It's not readable in vim, kate, more, less, etc. Kate complains of unrecogizable encoding. Gedit complains of invalid characters. I was kind of hoping to be able to look at in Linux, and not move to Windows and Notepad++.
billo
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:13:00 -0400 William Oliver wrote:
Nope. Yeah, I saw that site. It's not readable in vim, kate, more, less, etc. Kate complains of unrecogizable encoding. Gedit complains of invalid characters. I was kind of hoping to be able to look at in Linux, and not move to Windows and Notepad++.
If it is just a question of it being something like a Windows 16 bit text file, there is "iconv" for converting between any number of encoding formats. (Of course since there are an infinite number of them, guessing which format the source is in can be hard). Just as one example I use this to convert text files my TiVo claims are utf-8, but which are really windows encoded file so they really are utf-8:
iconv -f windows-1252 -t utf-8 < input > output
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:13:00 -0400 William Oliver vendor@billoblog.com wrote:
Summary - probably a text file viewable in any text editor, even less.
[snip]
Nope. Yeah, I saw that site. It's not readable in vim, kate, more, less, etc. Kate complains of unrecogizable encoding. Gedit complains of invalid characters. I was kind of hoping to be able to look at in Linux, and not move to Windows and Notepad++.
I apologize for besmirching your search skills. :-)
If Tom's suggestion doesn't work, it is probably in exe format. If you can contact whoever sent it to you, you could ask them to send it as a text file instead of a ptx exe file. If they created it, they must have the commercial product that would allow that.
If you can't get it in a text format, then it is probably going to need that windows tool to read it. As a long shot you could try unzip on it to see if the encoding is just a compression step.
Apparently, it's very proprietary. I've asked around and all the lawyers I know say you have to download the e-transcript software, which only runs on Mac or Windows.
I ended up calling the lawyer, and they translated into a PDF for me.
Thanks for trying!
billo
On 2017-06-20 16:51, stan wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:13:00 -0400 William Oliver vendor@billoblog.com wrote:
Summary - probably a text file viewable in any text editor, even less.
[snip]
Nope. Yeah, I saw that site. It's not readable in vim, kate, more, less, etc. Kate complains of unrecogizable encoding. Gedit complains of invalid characters. I was kind of hoping to be able to look at in Linux, and not move to Windows and Notepad++.
I apologize for besmirching your search skills. :-)
If Tom's suggestion doesn't work, it is probably in exe format. If you can contact whoever sent it to you, you could ask them to send it as a text file instead of a ptx exe file. If they created it, they must have the commercial product that would allow that.
If you can't get it in a text format, then it is probably going to need that windows tool to read it. As a long shot you could try unzip on it to see if the encoding is just a compression step. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
Glad you found your solution. I will agree with Tom on building a basic virtual windows machine for these odd non-crossover. You don't need to register it as, in your case and a few times I have needed similar, one can simply fire up the vm and use for a simple purpose. A non-registered OS will simply not draw updates and not nerf the system enough to prevent simple work from being completed. In my cases, typically was to convert it to something I could use on the Linux system. The money is still with the WinMac user but Linux continues to grow and users like you create demand for a more universal solution such as PDF or non-platform dependent software.
-- Fred
On 2017-06-27 08:49, fred roller wrote:
Glad you found your solution. I will agree with Tom on building a basic virtual windows machine for these odd non-crossover. You don't need to register it as, in your case and a few times I have needed similar, one can simply fire up the vm and use for a simple purpose. A non-registered OS will simply not draw updates and not nerf the system enough to prevent simple work from being completed. In my cases, typically was to convert it to something I could use on the Linux system. The money is still with the WinMac user but Linux continues to grow and users like you create demand for a more universal solution such as PDF or non-platform dependent software.
-- Fred
I went on ebay and looked at win 7 distros for sale. It seemed to come in two flavors, one flavor came with a busted disk drive for about $40 and another without a busted disk drive for about $100. Both kinds said they came with appropriate certificates, etc. I wasn't sure if both could be thrown on a Virtualbox disk. I use Virtualbox for an old win XP distro I have for previewing LibreOffice presentations on PowerPoint to make sure fonts are OK. Unfortunately the e-transcript sofware requires Win 7 and above.
I've had that virtual disk for years -- I just keep copying it over when I install new versions of Fedora or Debian. I'm sure it's not secure, but I only use it for about 10 minutes at a time, and not when connected to the intenet. It's been so long since I've used Windows for anything other than basic wordprocessing at work, I don't have a clue what will and will not install on a virtual disk. Do you know if those OEM $39 distros will actually work in Virtualbox? I really don't want to pay a hundred bucks for a distro I use once every two or three years.
billo
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:02:07 -0400 vendor@billoblog.com wrote:
Do you know if those OEM $39 distros will actually work in Virtualbox?
I bought the cheapest OEM Windows 7 I could find from a legitimate source (I don't remember how much I paid, I think it was 50 or 60 bucks). I was able to install it fine using virt-manager. This was before Windows 10, so when Windows 10 came around, I upgraded the VM, which took forever, but worked, so I now have a Windows 10 virtual machine.
I use a read only qcow2 base image with the running system in a read/write qcow2, so if I ever have any problems, I can just revert back to the base.
Whenever I happen to feel like killing time, I can boot directly in the base, apply Windows updates, and make a new more up-to-date base image.
I use the redhat virtual disk and network drivers and such to get good performance and cut & paste support, etc (I swear they move the "official" location to find them every two or three weeks though, so don't ask me where they are now :-).
The only thing that doesn't work with qemu is 3D graphics (there are various rumors of projects to provide it, but I don't think anything real exists yet). This isn't usually a problem, but it did prevent me from running the software for my 3D scanner in a virtual machine because it insisted on open GL.
This link will get you the win10 .iso image to burn, should be free of charge.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
Virtual software on Fedora is free of charge. For simple programs you should not need a stand alone system. If, however, you do need a full system then there are plenty of refirbs for cheap.
-- Fred
Allegedly, on or about 27 June 2017, fred roller sent:
This link will get you the win10 .iso image to burn, should be free of charge.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
Have they changed to a new business model? Some kind of try before you buy scheme?
(I really don't want to use Windows, but I'm curious about why there's a free download.)
On 2017-06-28 00:04, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 27 June 2017, fred roller sent:
This link will get you the win10 .iso image to burn, should be free of charge.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
Have they changed to a new business model? Some kind of try before you buy scheme?
(I really don't want to use Windows, but I'm curious about why there's a free download.)
I was surprised, too -- it's running fine in Virtualbox for me. I did a quick search and found a couple of sites that suggest that this is a place set up primarily for Windows users who have trouble upgrading and have to do a clean install. Most of the sites I looked at say that a product key will *eventually* be required. See, for instance, http://www.redmondpie.com/download-windows-10-pro-iso-file-without-product-k.... If I go to the Microsoft web site directly and follow the menu options to get Windows 10, I get to a page that says it's $110.
I vaguely remember something like that happening to me in the past, where I had some piece of Microsoft software that I was using, and then about a month in it started demanding a product key.
It may be that Microsoft has simply decided not to enforce this. I keep hearing rumors that they want Windows 10 to be used as widely as possible, and are considering making it free. Who knows...
I guess I'll find out, eventually.
billo
On 06/27/2017 11:04 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 27 June 2017, fred roller sent:
This link will get you the win10 .iso image to burn, should be free of charge.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
It won't let you download a Windows iso unless you are running Windows, and it sort of looks like it will only let you download the same kind of windows (7,8,10) as you already have. What good is that?
--doug
Have they changed to a new business model? Some kind of try before you buy scheme?
(I really don't want to use Windows, but I'm curious about why there's a free download.)
On 06/28/2017 11:28 AM, Doug wrote:
On 06/27/2017 11:04 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 27 June 2017, fred roller sent:
This link will get you the win10 .iso image to burn, should be free of charge.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
It won't let you download a Windows iso unless you are running Windows, and it sort of looks like it will only let you download the same kind of windows (7,8,10) as you already have. What good is that?
That is the Windows 10 download page, so that's all that's available there. But if you follow the prompts, you get a direct download link for an ISO file.
On 06/28/2017 11:28 AM, Doug wrote:
It won't let you download a Windows iso unless you are running Windows, and it sort of looks like it will only let you download the same kind of windows (7,8,10) as you already have. What good is that?
I don't know where you tried to get it from. Just downloaded it onto an Ubuntu box; no questions asked except languages preferred and 32/64.
On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 14:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:
On 06/28/2017 11:28 AM, Doug wrote:
It won't let you download a Windows iso unless you are running Windows, and it sort of looks like it will only let you download the same kind of windows (7,8,10) as you already have. What good is that?
I don't know where you tried to get it from. Just downloaded it onto an Ubuntu box; no questions asked except languages preferred and 32/64.
I'm starting to get a little thing on my screen complaining that my copy of Windows isn't "activated." Everything still runs, though. It tells me to go to Settings, where there's a line for activation. If I click on it, it complains that I don't have a valid license or product key, and that I'm at risk for viruses and other security threats.
billo
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:23 PM, William Oliver vendor@billoblog.com wrote:
I'm starting to get a little thing on my screen complaining that my copy of Windows isn't "activated."
As I mentioned earlier "A non-registered OS will simply not draw updates and not nerf the system enough to prevent simple work from being completed." This is not meant to set up a fully functioning system but rather give you a place to make conversions for Linux use or simple tasks - a work around. It will complain but should not stop you from doing what you need. If you need a fully functional system then the investment maybe warranted. The few times I have needed a licensed copy around I bought a refirb system with the WinOS. Installed Linux without turning on so the new system never registered then used the license in the virtual machine of the same machine.