Am 19.04.2013 10:50, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz:
I don't like arguments about terms.
and i don't like discussions about clear subjects like "yum does not solve dependencies" instead "can't upgrade" while it is pretty clear that such dep-problems in case of a normal update are going away as they are coming while problems with a dist-upgrade may need a specific bugreport
They generally provide no solution to original problem
no, but if a topic is started with a clear subject it is more likely that you get the right answers especially if you strip the used command in your initial post
I used term upgrade (without 'from .. to ..' construction) because I can type yum upgrade in my shell to - do what? To upgrade to the next release? Please remove upgrade option from yum or don't tell me that I misused this term.
there is a difference between a command-line option and the intention of what you like to do, the subject sounds like a failing dist-upgrade with yum
Right now I don't care F17 is EOL. I have two or more months to upgrade some of my systems to f18 or f19. Now, F17 is perfectly legal version so I don't know why should I be the only person thinking about installing latest packages for that particular version of Fedora.
because you used the wrong term in case of humans we can discuss this now for hours or you simply realize that a clear subject at start would be better
Yum uses this term
where does it that for a package update?
From man yum: upgrade - Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set. See update for more details
so what