On Sunday 27 of January 2013 14:53:54 Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 25.01.2013, 13:54 -0700 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
>> So, we had a fudcon session about spins, but it was merged with the
>> talk on Fedora Formulas and we didn't really decide anything about
>> spins.
>
> Glad to hear that.
>
> I saw the session on Youtube and I disagree to a lot that was said. I
> think it's good that things are not set in stone yet.
>
>> Formulas aren't going to fully replace spins, and even if they do, they
>> likely won't be ready for f19 anyhow, so we need to figure out what we
>> do for f19 now.
>>
>> a) what about the new spins that didn't get added in f18?
>> If their spin owners are actually active, they should chime in and
>> commit their ks to git and update the f19 spins page with their size
>> and so releng knows to produce them.
>>
>> b) Any new spins need to SUBMIT THEIR KS FILES ASAP so we can avoid
>> problems where things don't make it.
>>
>> c) There's no meetings, Christoph is swamped, how do we want to handle
>> the day to day business of the sig?
>
> Fortunately I'm not *that* swamped any longer and I am currently working
> on our trac to move the spin reviews from the wiki to the track
> instance.
>
>> I was thinking we should require at each freeze point that any spins we
>> promote on
spins.fedoraproject.org have at least 2 people sign off that
>> they tested them and they basically work. If 0 people do this sign off,
>> we should still produce them, but they sit in alt and don't get
>> promoted anywhere. If a spin doesn't get any testing for an entire
>> cycle, we drop them completely.
>
> Makes sense, but IHMO dropping a spin will only make things
> worse.Without live media, there is no easy way to test things and the in
> the end, things that received little testing will be tested even less.
> It seems that even KDE didn't get proper testing this time and I think
> we all agree we cannot drop it.
No proper testing for KDE? Really?
I see quite a good coverage even for LXDE, Xfce and Sugar [1].
Fedora Jam: we are pretty pedantic when it comes to testing. Using KDE
as a base you could say that it is well covered also