From: "Dennis Gregorovic" <dgregor(a)redhat.com>
To: "Amanda Carter" <acarter(a)redhat.com>, "Dennis Gilmore"
<dennis(a)ausil.us>
Cc: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:00:43 PM
Subject: Re: Livemedia-creator questions
On 12/16/2015 02:18 PM, Amanda Carter wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dennis Gilmore" <dennis(a)ausil.us>
>> To: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:29:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: Livemedia-creator questions
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 09:52:45 AM Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Yesterday I was doing some livemedia-creator runs to figure out kickstart
>>> changes and make sure we get the options right. I had a big shock in the
>>> output of the live-iso option
>>>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2015-December/msg00019.
>>> html is the email I sent to the anaconda list but I wanted to discuss it
>>> here to make sure we are all on the same page. My expectation was that we
>>> would get an iso that we can ship. What we get is not close to that and
>>> makes it extremely difficult to work with. Us and everyone making and
>>> shipping livecds will need to write something to make the output
>>> shipable.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> Additionally this morning I found out that making disk images will not
>> work
>> at
>> all. apparently device-mapper does not work in a mock chroot the response
>> from
>> the anaconda developers was that we should be doing everything in virt.
>> The
>> issues with doing things in virt is that we can not ensure that we are
>> running
>> the correct versions of lorax, something we can do in a mock chroot. We
>> can
>> not use virt as we do not have the ability to run virt everywhere.
>>
>> At this point I am not sure the best path forward. but we need to work out
>> one.
>
> After talking to Dennis, my take away / suggestions are this:
>
> Dennis is going to test the pxe2live path to see if that 'just works'. If
> it does, we could release with support for pxe2live since we don't have
> any way of creating that today. However, we need to feel confident that
> we'll move forward with livemedia-creator more generally before we do
> that. To get that confidence, we need to have a heart to heart with the
> livemedia-creator guys about whether or not they plan to support Fedora
> releng use cases in livemedia-creator (and potentially with the LVM team
> wrt the device-mapper problem). If that's an option, great! If that's a
> dead end, we're looking at writing a net new tool for this and we don't
> want to deploy livemedia-creator just for pxe2live.
>
> Thoughts?
Are the Fedora use cases unique? It would seem that the ability to generate
live ISOs is something that would be needed in a number of places.
This is not unique to Fedora and is part of the argument for making these changes.
--
Amanda Carter