On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Stephen Gallagher <
sgallagh(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 13:40 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 10:00 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 12:03 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > > Hello Flock attendees!
> > > >
> > > > Flock is in Rochester, NY this year, which is only about a 90
> > > > minute
> > > > drive to Niagara Falls, NY, home of the famous Horseshoe
> > > > Falls.
> > > > I've
> > > > been considering renting a car/van to make the trip out there
> > > > on
> > > > either
> > > > Tuesday Aug. 11th (I'm due into Rochester that morning around
> > > > 9:30
> > > > am)
> > > > or Sunday Aug. 16th (I'll be flying out at 7:15 pm, so I'd
> > > > need
> > > > to
> > > > be
> > > > back to the airport by about 5:00 pm or so).
> > > >
> > > > I figured I'd send this out to the list and see if anyone
> > > > else
> > > > would
> > > > be
> > > > at all interested in splitting the cost of a rental vehicle
> > > > and
> > > > taking
> > > > the drive out there. Depending on the number of people going,
> > > > the
> > > > cost
> > > > of the vehicle could be anywhere from about $76 USD (4
> > > > passenger
> > > > economy at $19pp) to $224 USD (7-passenger minivan at $32pp).
> > > > Of
> > > > course
> > > > if there's a lot of interest, I'm sure we can sort out
> > > > multiple
> > > > drivers
> > > > and vehicles to keep the costs down.
> > > >
> > > > To be clear, this is a privately-funded trip. No subsidy will
> > > > be
> > > > provided by the Flock organizers. If you are interested and
> > > > want
> > > > to
> > > > go,
> > > > funds will be coming out of your own pocket.
> > > >
> > > > If you're interested, please fill out the form I've created
> > > > at
> > > >
http://goo.gl/forms/zyycm9Dr1u
> > > >
> > > > It includes options for several departure times that I would
> > > > not
> > > > be
> > > > able to attend, but if interest is high enough we might
> > > > arrange
> > > > other
> > > > cars.
> > >
> > >
> > > Folks, if you have responded to this survey, please edit your
> > > results
> > > and add your email address (which I forgot to request
> > > initially).
> > > Otherwise it will be difficult to coordinate rides.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the few of you who have already updated your emails.
> > So,
> > right now there are 18 respondents scattered wildly across the
> > available times. Right now, I'm using the following algorithm to
> > sort
> > people into groups: Put them in a group leaving at the earliest
> > timeslot on each day that they said they could attend.
> >
> > The reasoning here is to maximize the amount of time that a group
> > could
> > spend on the trip. Right now, this looks like:
> >
> > == Tues. 9am ==
> >
> > Eligible Drivers: 4
> > Passengers: 4
> > ---------------------
> > Total Participants: 8
> >
> > Number of vehicles: 2@ ~$76
> > Price per-person: ~$19
> >
> >
> > == Tues. noon ==
> > Eligible Drivers: 2
> > Passengers: 1 ("maybe")
> > ---------------------
> > Total participants: 2-3
> >
> > Number of vehicles: 1@ ~$76
> > Price per-person: ~$25-$38
> >
> >
> > == Tues. 3pm ==
> > Eligible Drivers: 1
> > Passengers: 1
> > ---------------------
> > Total participants: 2
> >
> > Number of vehicles: 1@ ~$76
> > Price per-person: ~$38
> >
> >
> >
> > == Sun. 9am ==
> > Eligible Drivers: 1 + 1 ("maybe")
> > Passengers: 2
> > ---------------------
> > Total participants: 2-3
> >
> > Number of vehicles: 1@ ~$76
> > Price per-person: ~$25-$38
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't book anyone for the later Sunday slots because aside
> > from
> > myself, everyone who booked any of them booked all of them.
> >
> > As of the above, I will be the driver for the Tues. noon trip.
> >
> > I'm attaching a graphic showing the data from which I derived
> > these
> > values.
> > Key:
> > D = eligible driver, confirmed
> > d = eligible driver, maybe
> > P = passenger, confirmed
> > p = passenger, maybe
>
>
> Hmm, just looked at this again and realized I didn't actually
> follow my
> algorithm strictly for the Tues. 3pm set. There's one passenger
> that
> can only go if we leave at that time, and so I picked the first
> available driver that was not already accounted for in one of the
> other
> groups, but that may not have been fair to them (I don't know who
> it is
> yet, because they have not provided their email).
>
> If this driver strongly prefers to take the Sunday 9am trip
> instead,
> then I'm afraid this passenger may be out of luck, unless one of
> the
> other eligible drivers currently booked in another group
> voluntarily
> changes.
I'm the Tues 3 PM passenger and I would not want to inconvenience
anyone at all. There's also a risk that I won't make it in time due
to
my international flight, connections, and it being a tight schedule -
so I wouldn't want to be the only passenger lest I let the driver
down.
I'll just make sure to plan in more time when I'm close to the
Niagara
Falls next time - it simply slipped my radar this time. :)
Cheers,
Sandro
PS. thanks for the organization!
OK, then if you're going to bow out, I'd like to recommend that the
unnamed driver for that time slot move to the Sunday 9am slot. That
would change the number of travelers at that time to 5, so probably
upgrading to a five-passenger vehicle there would make sense.