On Wednesday, 15 March 2006 at 03:50, Dan Williams wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 02:02 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann'
Mierzejewski wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 March 2006 at 00:02, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 12:26 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > Harald Hoyer (harald(a)redhat.com) said:
> > > > What do you think about the attached patch to ifup-wireless? Works
for me :)
> >
> > > This should really be done in NM.
> >
> > Some of us would prefer to avoid being plagued by NM. It
> > (wpa_supplicant) works just fine, independent of NM and I've just got it
> > hooked in the bottom of the ifup scripts as they describe doing on the
> > project site. So far, I haven't found a problem that NM solves for me
> > and a few that it creates for me. NM and wpa_supplicant should each be
> > optional and orthogonal to each other.
>
> +1
>
> Personally, I find NM quite troublesome and the named dependency puts me
> off immensely. Why the hell do I need to install a domain name server(!)
> on a laptop? I'm sticking with ifup/ifdown for the time being.
For a few reasons:
[snip reasons I don't really care about]
3) If you don't like named, DON'T USE IT. What you don't
seem to
realize is that NM doesn't require named. It doesn't launch named. It
doesn't use named unless named is running, and named's dbus service is
enabled. NM will happily write /etc/resolv.conf, just like you want, if
you don't run named. The choice is, actually, up to you.
Please check the facts before replying with such confidence. I suggest you
look at the spec again (version 0.6.0-3):
Requires: caching-nameserver
[...]
Requires: bind >= %{bind_version}
This pulls in named when installing NetworkManager via yum. Sure, I can
*disable* named, but it still sits on my HDD. I don't want it installed in
the first place.
Remove this (explicit) dependency, and I'll be happy to forget ifup.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=185505
Regards,
R.
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