On Tue, 25.03.08 17:52, Jesse Keating (jkeating(a)redhat.com) wrote:
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:12 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Jesse Keating (jkeating(a)redhat.com) said:
> > > So, why do we need this in the default install?
> >
> > Why do we need this at all? Is it time for a block-pkg ?
>
> Well, I could argue why do we need csh, or 20 IRC clients, or apps written
> in Motif/lesstif, or applets that check for new mail by parsing a RSS feed
> in perl (with passwords written to the local disk, yay), and a variety of
> things that I'm sure other people have a need for. Doesn't necessarily mean
> they should be *blocked*, just not in the default install.
Yes, but if system-config-soundcard isn't actually solving any issues,
are we just maintaining it out of anger? At some point we really need
to ask, what is the point of having this software? Has it outlived it's
usefulness? We can orphan it and see if somebody wants to pick it up,
but we can ask them the same thing, why?
I am all for orphaning/removing/killing it now. A lot of bugs have
been reported against PA which were actually /etc/modprobe.conf
fuckups due to s-c-s. Even as a test program it is not particularly
useful. It is obsoleted by all the udev hotplug fancyness. AFAICS
there's not a single feature of it left that is not obsolete or even
counterproductive.
Lennart
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