On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:18:54PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > By "effective," don't you mean efficient?
>
> Yes, sorry. English is unfortunately not my native language. :-Z
No apology necessary, I just wanted to make sure I understood you
correctly.
Yup, that's how I understood your intention too. I'm just curse
myself for such mistakes. :-)
> There is not just black and white. There are shades of grey,
too. "Best
> of both worlds" approach.
True. One size does not fit all. GNOME tries to fit most "general
users," for example.
Can you please describe those users? Please including statistical
evidence that this fits the Fedora(!) user base.
Wrong. But I will admit I typed the wrong key sequence below. I
have a
shortcut assigned to "Ctrl+Alt+T," not "Ctrl+Shift+T," which opens up
a
new terminal tab. No matter what I'm doing -- even in a terminal
already -- Ctrl+Alt+T opens up a new terminal. I don't need to move the
mouse at all.
And what if the application running in the terminal needs to receive
those keypresses?
Keyboard shortcuts are always a difficult subject, as it's important
which application (desktop being one of them) receives it, or has
priority. Yes, compromises can be made. Still, I need to grab the mouse
anyway to quickly position the window exactly where I want it. The
ALT-F7 cursor-key movement (even with the Shift acceleration) doesn't
cut it at all (for me).
Notwithstanding the above, I am responding only to your claim that
the
right-click "Open Terminal" is the most efficient way to *open a
terminal.* Now you're talking about moving it where you want it, which
has little to do with using nautilus-open-terminal.
Well, it's the whole procedure to getting a new terminal ready for
action. That includes (to me) starting the terminal and positioning and
perhaps resizing it to what I want. I can never get to the speed of
using the mouse for that with keyboard functions. And I'm quite a quick
keyboard typist, I'm doing it since since literally infancy. :-)
> Now if metacity would actually pop the window ready-to-drag
under the
> mouse pointer (drop where it should be by left-click... you know, all
> the stuff fvwm had many many years ago already), even that could be
> optimized, as no mouse movement to fetch the newly popped up window (in
> the left upper corner, where the average mouse movement necessariy is
> max) would be necessary anymore.
You keep getting further away from the argument at hand. What metacity
does has nothing to do with this thread either.
Indeed. I was fading away, thinking load how to even more speed up the
process and make the GUI more convenient.
None of this precludes the use of nautilus-open-terminal. You
haven't
responded to the more relevant and important part of my post, which is
about getting nautilus-open-terminal included as part of a new package
combination, say for power users.
I did, but probably in other responses to other folks. I think the idea
of a package to add such an IMHO essential triviality back to GNOME
is like asking for people to shop again for the gear shift handle after
buying a new car. It's just completely over the top, IMHO.
Regards,
Daniel
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