My machine suspends to disk when I close the lid while it is unplugged. So ...
Quite often. I would love to see the GRUB menu disabled by default, but I am
also content with doing it myself post-install.
On Mon 11 March 2013 21:51:01 Steve Clark wrote:
On 03/11/2013 05:04 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 11.03.13 21:45, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net)
wrote:
>> Le Lun 11 mars 2013 21:16, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
>>> On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (lists(a)colorremedies.com) wrote:
>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson
>>>> <bjorn(a)xn--rombobjrn-67a.se>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to
press
>>>>
>>>> some key at the
>>>>
>>>>> right moment?
>>>>
>>>> A multiboot system needs at least a message to inform the user how to
>>>> get to the boot manager (the GRUB menu). A Fedora only system probably
>>>> should entirely suppress the menu or notice how to get to it.
>>>
>>> Somebody who is capable of installing multiple operating systems on one
>>> machine should easily be savvy enough to remember that pressing
>>> shift/esc/space/f2/whatever gets him the boot menu.
>>>
>>> If you installed multiple OSes and noticed that the boot menu is gone,
>>> wouldn't pressing these keys be your natural reaction anyway?
>>
>> My natural reaction would be to curse whoever is making me waste minutes
>> in press-random-keys-to-see-if-you-can-unlock-boot games to "win" a
few
>> seconds. I'm pretty sure any poll would find the same result.
>
> My natural reaction to the current grub2 menu that steals my boot is
> that I start to hate Fedora and Linux for that we waste our time in ugly
> boot menus and bikeshedding about them.
>
> Lennart
How many times do you boot a day? If it is more than once or twice I would
posit that is not the normal user. So what is 2 extra seconds?
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