Thank you, Vitaly and Fabio!
That makes sense, I didn't look on the issue from new user's view. Most
people who use vi/vim are aware of the differences and wanted vi/vim
just work if the other is not installed, so vi/vim are drop-in
replacements for them in this matter of speaking. And Vi is just a Vim
compiled more strictly nowadays, so it adds another confusion :) .
But speaking technically, they aren't drop-in replacements because of
different configuration options.
I will drop alternatives usage and use wrappers - then it will work for
immutable Fedoras too.
On 1/30/21 7:41 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 7:24 PM Peter Boy <pboy(a)uni-bremen.de>
wrote:
>
>
>> Am 30.01.2021 um 17:45 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
<devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>:
>>
>> On 30.01.2021 16:58, Peter Boy wrote:
>>> But it’s perfectly usable for Fedora Workstation or Server and almost
indispensable for some development projects, e.g. Java (and vi/vim for a terminal
environment). Why should alternatives not be usable there? Or what is a suitable and
adequate replacement?
>>
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Alternatives/
> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I don’t see a connection to immutable Fedora (it
is about drop-in, user configurable, etc). Or do I miss something?
If you read the Packaging Guidelines, they actually explicitly mention
that vi / vim are a bad example for using the alternatives system -
because they're not drop-in replacements.
Additionally, as far as I know, OSTree based Fedora variants do not
execute any RPM scriptlets, but implement their own handling of e.g.
ldconfig and such things.
And alternatives is definitely not compatible with OSTree - according
to these bug reports, at least Java alternatives are broken -
apparently primarily because OSTree stores configuration in /var
instead of /etc:
-
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1657367
-
https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/1614
Fabio
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