On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> I find it kinda funny that people who refuse to co-operate within policies
> and specifications created by the fedora.us community complain about
> fedora.us not co-operating with them :-/
Most packagers were fed up even before decent policies and specifications
existed. Even before there was a common infrastructure or Fedora had any
packages committed. Whereas most 3rd party packagers already had more
packages then Fedora currently. This was a very different situation.
How those policies and specifications were made and the atitude of those
in charge towards existing repositories explain why a lot (most?) of
packagers left frustrated. And of course the fact that some of these
specifications made it impossible to be compatible didn't do any good
either.
Oh well, I'm speaking as someone who didn't have a repository of my own
and didn't want to create one so there was no change and thus no pain. I
think I do understand the pain involved for existing repositories and yes,
there certainly was some rough rides in early fedora.us discussions.
I don't really understand how the project on one hand hopes/begs existing
packagers to submit their packages and on the other hand treats them
arrogantly and ignores their advice.
I also don't understand why the current negative critism towards the 3rd
party packagers will get us any closer and I was a bit of surprised that
Warren had to bring that up _again_.
I can only hope Red Hat's involvement can change the atmosphere a bit.
Oh I sure hope the new Fedora project will bring peace and love to all as
well, hostility wont get us anywhere.
- Panu -