On Fri, 2022-03-11 at 13:52 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 AM Colin Walters
<walters(a)verbum.org>
> wrote:
> > Long term if Bugzilla slowly morphs into only being used by
> > Fedora,
> > personally I'd prefer to have bugs/issues in gitlab instead.
>
> Yes, I personally think
gitlab.com would be a good replacement for
>
src.fedoraproject.org and
bugzilla.redhat.com.
I disagree as the interface for agile development like sprints,
kanban
and other team tools is rudimentary at best and really not suitable
for anything more than the basics and is not a patch on the
functionality and plugin ecosystem that is available in Jira. The
gitlab functionality there is a toy in comparison.
Peter,
Bugzilla has no support for any sprints or kanban at all, so I do not
see how this is relevant.
Unless your claim is that Fedora absolutely needs a sprint/kanban based
organizational tool which would surprise me.
I personally do not think Fedora should tie itself to Red Hat's Jira.
For community oriented development Jira is simply not a great tool IMO,
because it is built with a "traditional" organization in mind, not for
community use.
Keeping it simple is actually an existential requirement for Fedora
where we have so many drive-by volunteers. Complex on-boarding becomes
quickly an impenetrable barrier to participation.
This is another reason I think common forges issue systems, while
limited are a better fit for community issue reporting than either
Bugzilla or Jira, because they are simple and immediately available.
You can easily write automation to pull in/mirror issues into your own
Jira projects if that's what you use for work and feel the need for,
IMO.
And just to be clear I am both a *heavy* Jira and Bugzilla user
(including writing automation for both and other stuff via bots) for
work, so I think I can say I know what I am talking about.
Simo.
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Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc