On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 21:29 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 09.10.2012 19:19, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Tue, 09.10.12 15:19, Tom Hughes (tom(a)compton.nu) wrote:
>
>> On 09/10/12 15:04, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>
>>> h) It's much shorter to type: "journalctl" than "less
>>> /var/log/messages". "journalctl -n" is shorter than
"tail
>>> /var/log/messages". And "journalctl -f" is shorter than
"tail -f
>>> /var/log/messages".
>>
>> While "less" helpfully wraps your log lines at the edge of your
>> terminal journalctl unhelpfully truncates them or, if -a is used,
>> makes you use left/right cursor to scroll back and forth in an
>> attempt to read the lines. Especially since it fully qualifies the
>> host name so the actual message has barely got started by column 80.
>
> On f18 we will not trucnate lines we pass to less.
>
> If you don't like the behaviour of less in regards of long lines, please
> file a bug to less.
why is "less" used at all instead of "more" which
supports scrolling down AND up as example?
I think you have less and more reversed?
Dan
for me it is STIL a bad idea paging as default
and force users to set shell-aliases
the unix-way to go is "whaterver | more"
truncating and paging as default is really bad behavior